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A career criminal making death threats should go directly to jail.
he did. Trump let him out
Trump didn’t even “let him out.” Stone got a Trump pardon before he ever saw the inside of a jail cell.
Oh, yeah. Scumbags
If you don’t read the article, at least read this excerpt:
“It’s time to do it,” Stone told Sal Greco, then a member of the NYPD who was working as Stone’s security. “Let’s go find Swalwell. It’s time to do it. Then we’ll see how brave the rest of them are. It’s time to do it. It’s either Nadler or Swalwell has to die before the election. They need to get the message. Let’s go find Swalwell and get this over with. I’m just not putting up with this shit anymore.”
This was transcribed from an audio recording. The source article claims to have the audio, but has not released it yet.
Mediaite has released it on Youtube
Can be found on MSNBC too but they source Mediaite.
Nice, thank you! I searched for it, but obviously didn’t look hard enough. I’m glad it’s available. I know it won’t make a bit of difference to the christofascits, but at least it is available and on the record.
There is nothing that the MAGA crowd would not dismiss as “fake news” including murder on live TV
Will not be sad when this literal mobster dies.
You misspelled monster.
Of course they weren’t a joke, that man is an animated evil meat sack
They weren’t threats in the criminal sense of the word. They weren’t communicated to the threatened person or to anyone who was likely to pass them on to the threatenee.
They also weren’t communicated to anyone who was likely to go and do something about it, so they weren’t incitement either.
At best they were an attempt at establishing a conspiracy, but I’m not convinced.
The fact that they probably aren’t a criminal act in themselves doesn’t mean the police shouldn’t investigate, but he’s not going to hang just for this.
“It’s not a murder threat, it’s an assassination plot”
Yes, except that it’s not a conspiracy (plot) unless a) the other guy agrees and b) they do something other than talking (there is an overt act).
But yeah, if I were police I’d keep a close eye on him and see who else he talks to and what else he does.
The legal fine points, important of course, fail to consider the legitimacy problem here. If you don’t agree with your political opponents, you want to murder them. Conspiracy, violation of legal code, maybe not as some comments have pointed out.
Extremely dangerous in a system where you are supposed to peacefully transfer power? Thats the problem with his words, that people like him think that is ok AND have been shown to have the capacity and vision to walk towards action. Without so much as a meaningful consequence at that.
That train of though is dangerous in a democracy, for anyone. Even a flawed democracy like the US.
2020 - the incident
Four of the prosecutors abruptly quit the case following the Justice Department’s intervention. At least one, Aaron Zelinsky, acknowledged he had left in protest. A separate audio recording revealed Stone wanted retribution against Zelinsky, as well.
Stone has denied making the comments about Zelinsky, Swalwell, or Nadler and said the audio had been…
Looooong pause
2022 - major advancement in generative AI
… made with artificial intelligence.
Back then deep fakes were just becoming a thing. There was text-to-speech, but voice cloning wasn’t popular if I recall. It wasn’t until the AI boom in 2022 that that technology really took off.
I did try to search when generative voice AI started getting popular, but couldn’t find too much so I could be mistaken.
