What garbage
The plot thickens
There needs to be a massive resignation of reddit moderators.
If reddit refuses to hear the mod’s voice, why would anyone give them their labour for free?
Let the power-tripping mods stay, and let the sane mods come to other platforms. Let the site go to shit or make Reddit spend millions investing in its own moderation team.
It would be better if the mods stopped moderating, without removing themselves. Just let the communities become overwhelming cesspits, making it that much more difficult for the admins to scrub. That is the nuclear option, though, and it seems that the mods actually have hope for Reddit to compromise.
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Any mods willing to stay aren’t mods I’d want here, anyway.
I think what they’re doing is the most impactful. If the mods just stop, then under ToS they can be legitimately removed as inactive. If they’re active and following the clearly-expressed will of the community as determined by voting (you know, that core principle that all of Reddit is built on) then any action taken to remove them is an obvious and egregious violation of Reddit’s stated policies. If the community will just happens to be something that makes the website less programme l monetisable… well, that’s a shame, but nothing in Reddit’s user ToS says "you must work towards helping us profit from your interactions with the site ".
Plus, many of these communities are voting to do things that accelerate the transformation of their subreddits into hard-to-clean-up cesspits.
I closed down my subs and moved here and started new ones. I’m not looking back. My subs were only moderated by me, so they can hire someone if they want to open them up again.
They should migrate to lemmy.
Just did.
What a fucking circus that reddit has become in just the last couple of weeks.
I was still popping last week, but its all but slowed to a trickle at this point. Reddit fucking sucks today, and I say that as a 12 year user who thought it sucked 3 years ago.
Misread and thought you were saying you were 12 at first. You’re very mature for your age!
Yes. 16 year Reddit user here. The last pieces of the puzzle with themes and moving to lemm.ee are falling into place for me. Lemmy’s front page is now more interesting than Reddit. Very much reminds me of the Reddit I joined. Way more intelligent and topical.
There’s nowhere near the amount of activity on Lemmy as there is (er, was?) on Reddit. But of course Lemmy is still in its infancy (comparative to Reddit, which has a collaborative seventeen year history behind all the threads/subs).
It’s a very good sign to see that perhaps we collectively just need to be patient, give it some time, and Lemmy could thrive.
mildly infuriating is an understatement, this is insane…
We need /c/infuratingasfuck
yes!
If the mods of mildly Infuriating want to jump ship they are more than welcome to have their old positions back!
I am also sure for those of mildly interesting they also would find it easy establishing a mildly interesting community here on Lemmy. I know I would join it!
I dunno about that fresh blood might be what this site needs, mods end up getting too rooted in their ways and act all too irrational.
https://lemmy.world/c/mildlyinteresting They are way ahead of you!
Hell yeah!
Looks like they are removing posts about it in reddit too. The main subs are scrubbed of all mention now.
Yeah, they’re gonna keep ruining Reddit while we steadily migrate here. We’re just being a pain in the ass on our way out.
Back when there was exodus from digg people started posting links to stories on reddit to digg. I think the same should be done right now.
Make sure you’re willing to abruptly lose your Reddit account if you do. Reddit admins are being pretty cunthroat about this all.
What does an account matter? Make 10 more. Make them with names insulting admins.
That really wouldn’t bother me at this point
Is there a value in an account you aren’t planning to use on a site you don’t like anymore? I think many people will wear “being banned for advocating to migrate” as a badge of honour.
Someone told me i was going to get banned for saying i joined lemmy.world on reddit… and it’s like… Okay?? This site is shit now anyways, so you’re going to ban me for using a different website, that’s a great way to retain users during your mass-user revolt crisis.
Where you banned?
No but my post was deleted
Probably specifically because the admins (Spez) don’t want people hearing that competition exists
Reddit is picking a fight with the internet…
They’ll win in the end when the internet gets board like always. Still, it’ll be fun to watch burn, knock some value off the IPO.
Like Digg “won”?
How the f do they win this?
Morally? Nah that train left.
Technically? I guess when it comes to user counts and influence there’s nothing really to gain and a lot to lose as well.
Monetarily? Nope. They lost trust, which loses users and stability as well as belief in the platform. They will decrease earnings from investors, selling user data and potential ads.
I don’t see a win here…
remember Tumplr? Yeah, I don’t either
Which would win in a fight, 100 Reddit-sized Internets or one Internet-sized Reddit?
fuck u/spez
fuck u/spez and fuck reddit’s board of directors.
Reddit is going to do whatever the fuck it wants and will gladly fuck over the mods and users in the name of shareholder interests. These actions are chilling for anyone still considering building a community using Reddit.
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For real. I never heard of Lemmy until this happened.
I’d heard of Lemmy and wanted to switch for at least a couple of years now, but without a critical mass of other people to post content there was no point. I’m excited that it’s finally a viable community!
Me either! Now I feel like I’m getting in on the ground floor of something big.
Same. Would have signed up years ago if I’d known about it. I miss the old usenet days!
Thank you spez for introducing me to Lemmy, I appreciate that.
Reddit needs suckers. People who are expendable, do as they’re told, and don’t ask questions.
“You have to do what the users want, unless the users don’t agree with us.” -Reddit admin.
Well that went just as I expected it to. The admins are still the admins. They’re the top of the power totem and that’s that.
Honestly this protest’s only purpose shouldve be to raise awareness of alternatives and tell people “were leaving Reddit, and this is where we’re going” while we still can. Because Reddit is private property, and therefore will always be subject to the whims of its admins - regardless of how people believe it should be run of if people think it should tolerate protesting against the platform on the platform.
Everyone should’ve been aware that this protest could only have been temporary.
Sure we reminded them of the power we possess, but they’ve essentially reminded us that they possess more, and can remove that power regardless of how the community feels. Admins are and have always been at the top.
No one had any illusions about how this was going to go. The point was making them do it. The point was forcing Reddit into a PR nightmare just before their big IPO. The point was giving this platform traction. The fact that this post exists on this platform is proof that the mods succeeded. Sure, Reddit is still huge… but with entire mod teams being replaced with Spez bootlickers it remains to be seen whether they can maintain what they have, or if this is Digg all over again.
It’s hard to predict what will happen, but I’m here, and you’re here, so something is happening.
I don’t think reddit will die, but they definitely hurt themselves. The fediverse grew by leaps and bounds over the past week, reddit drove so much traffic to their potential competitors. Then when the 3rd party apps die, they’ll lose some more.
Reddit is gambling on gaining enough revenue from pushing people on 3rd party apps to 1st party that it makes up for the loss of users overall.
People on reddit say “Why do we care about 3rd party apps, it’s such a small section of the userbase” But apparently reddit cares enough about that small section of the userbase that they need to push them to their own app.
Nobody said it makes sense.
We’ll see in a few days what the people end up choosing. I’m not going back unless demands are met, but I do have a tiny glimmer of hope that the people will let it go as apps disappear, and a slightly larger glimmer of hope that it’ll just kinda shrivel over the following months and years.
But, in all likelihood, people are dumb, and spineless and ignorant, and will continue to make spez money and the durability of the site will endure. It’ll be worse, but not worse enough for the vast majority of normal people to not use it. I have hope, but it’s simply hope in the face of my ever growing misanthropy.
I said this elsewhere, but this isn’t the end of reddit. The end of reddit will be when everyone on the site says “God i’m tired of all these fediverse/(some shittier platform) reposts, why am I even here?”
Um. Strong disagree. Yeah it went about as badly as we all expected, but that doesn’t mean it’s good or okay.
In all honesty, reddittors should take down the servers as a form of protest. That’s always been a proper format of protest that’s the equivalent to picketing workers - disrupt production, bring it to a halt, and don’t go back to work until you get what you want. It doesn’t hurt anybody or any thing, and you show your power and value at the same time. It’s an inconvenient time for reddit’s pockets? Well maybe they should pull their heads out of their asses. Anything less is just a complaint, and in this day and age, when they have dollar signs for eyes, that don’t mean shit to this type of people.
If you wanna use might makes right as a founding logic for apathy and apologism, then cowards prepare assholes.
Reddit doing what they’re doing is the equivalent of forcefully removing picketers and you’re like, “it’s their business, they’ve always had the right.”
Because they always have had the legal right to do as they please with their platform.
This protest isn’t by the workers - it’s by unpaid volunteers and there is no law saying they have to listen to unpaid volunteers - and while we can organise there’s no - “unionization” persay - they aren’t paying us. So yes, they can and will bust through up the picket line, holding as many people hostage to their platform despite the moral standing of doing so.
Sure people don’t like that, and therefore they have no moral right. But business when they get greedy generally don’t care about moral rights, and will do everything on the correct side of the law to keep their power and userbase, and considering how eroded the antitrust and anticonsumer laws are right now, reddit has a lot of ability to do shit they shouldn’t really be allowed to do.
Even if legal suits do happen as a result of this, it will be a long drawn out process where Reddit will either Win, or declare bankruptcy. Then you can bet a large multinational tech company will buy it out. Google and Microsoft have been wanting to get into social media for some time now, and meta is still looking for a hot new thing it can hedge it’s bets and get more userbase - to the eyes of these companies the data and software Reddit possesses has inherent value even as the dwindling userbase, especially because Reddit aren’t really deleting data from old accounts. Hell current data would be a great data set to train AIs on and therefore big AI companies would love the opportunity to own said data. I could totally see a company buy it up, shut it down and then use the data to their own ends.
Also taking down the servers, while I completely agree with that in this case - and if 4chan were on board it probably would’ve happened - though I doubt it could be sustained long term, maybe a few months at absolute best, a few hours at worst. Doing so via the means we have available does present a legal concern not many are willing to cross, especially considering the implications of getting caught, most people are into peaceful protests, for this sort of thing not ouright trying to wreck shit - going to prison over a gripe with a social media site seems like a really dumb thing to ruin your life for.
Honestly just the fact that the protest gave awareness to viable reddit alternatives is good enough. And the blackout helped in that regard to force users to search for alternatives (like me). Obviously subs will be forced back open, but people have options now with whole communities here that literally did not exist weeks ago.
I started Lemmy last week. I was only going to Reddit for Ukraine stuff and now the Ukraine war video sub is GONE. Amazing how much they have fucked this all up in such a short period.
