First of all, thank you @ljdawson@lemmy.world for pursuing Sync for Lemmy. It’s honestly given me so much hope for Fediverse adoption to actually happen. I do have one thought to share with you to help with success:
Come July 1st pretty much all Sync users are going to open the app due to muscle memory or due to a lack of awareness of what’s happening.
If they see “this app doesn’t work any more” or similar, they are simply going to delete the app and will likely go to the official Reddit app. The opportunity to engage them will be gone.
However, you can use it as a huge marketing opportunity if on that day it says something to the effect of:
- Sync for Reddit doesn’t work any more due to the API changes…
- However Sync for Lemmy is in development
- Here’s how you try Lemmy (and/or kbin) in the mean time…
- Keep Sync for Reddit on your phone to receive a notification when Sync for Lemmy is launched
Even if they don’t try Lemmy right away, if they get a notification from the old app saying the new one is ready they will possibly try it at that time (but you need to convince them to keep the old app on their phone)
But the clock is ticking - after July 1st the chance of engaging someone in this way is very low as they’ll likely uninstall the old app. IMO getting this teed up is of a higher priority than developing the minimal-viable-product for the new app.
You likely already have this in the works, but wanted to throw it out there incase you hadn’t planned on it already. Thanks again for doing this - I am so hopeful and excited for a viable alternative to Reddit and Sync could be such a huge piece in making it possible!
Originally posted to /r/syncforlemmy but figured I should put my money where my mouth is and post here as well. After all, this is the future!
Since we’re only talking about a week timeline here, would it be possible to update the sync app with a list of popular Lemmy instances and a way to view your favorite one from a web view within the app? That way people could still use sync in the meantime while native features gradually get rolled out.
This is an amazing idea if possible!
I wouldn’t do it. If the user experience is bad, they’ll uninstall it “because they tried and it sucked”. Then they won’t even go back.
I like the suggestion from OP.
I think it would actually be pretty cool if somehow you could link configured subreddits that people have saved or subscribed to into a search for Lemmy communities.
Obviously we want to minimize time that distracts you from the Lemmy version, but I do think it would help people pivot into Lemmy communities away from their favorite subreddits.
Could be a good idea for RiF and Apollo as well, even if they don’t plan to build apps for the Fediverse.
Imagine if it just seamlessly continued working after a short account signup and translated your Reddit subs to various Lemmy ones where it could.
That’d be magical, but isn’t easily feasible.
This is brilliant idea
referencing users on Lemmy is not at all the same as reddit, since there are multiple instances.
there’s no automagic function for it (at least not on the web there isn’t - that’s probably why you couldn’t find one), you just have to do it by hand.
ie.
[.world](http://lemmy.world/u/foreverwinter)becomes: @foreverwinter@lemmy.worldAwesome. Thanks for the tip @alex@geddit.social !
absolutely agree, get them here and make this community even more vibrant
Those fuckers
Funny thing is that I don’t see this popup in sync.
It only happens when you access a reddit link from mobile without a default app to open reddit. They are trying to force the shite app on everyone, which is amusing b/c all it does is make me give LJ more energy
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It should just ask if you want to continue in [browser], but I think reddit flagged any posts about apps to have this popup/last ditch attempt.
PSA: get past it by clicking “desktop view”.
Right?!
This is a great idea, smart recommendation
+1 this is a super good idea - !ljdawson@lemmy.world
You’ll be surprised by how many redditors you can convince to join lemmy by just mentioning Sync.
It’s very effective. Understandably so; I’ve always browsed Reddit with Sync and it’s probably the single best app I’ve ever used.
Here’s a quick summary of Lemmy/kbin that mentions Sync and Artemis I find to be very effective to copy/paste to threads with confused redditors. I suggest others to do the same.
I had never heard of Sync, but with the way people are talking about it and it’s features, I think it could replace Bacon Reader for me (RIP) and this is coming from someone who uses reddit a moderate amount for niche subreddits, but isn’t going to stand for this anti capitalist BS that Spez is pulling, so how I’m here. It wasn’t hard, but I appreciate the fact not everyone is as plugged in or aware of social causes such as this or more importantly thst not everyone has the free time to put in a minimal amount of research to figure out how to move to an alternative.
Ditto, I’m a Bacon Reader man myself but have heard enough good stuff about Sync over the years that I’m pretty confident it’ll be a solid replacement.
Upcoming Sync is why I’m here on lem in the first place…just had my 15th cakeday on reddit real bummer to see it go the same way digg did…
Remember it’s just an account on some website and the person behind it is what actually bought it to life.
Yeah, that’s what I keep telling myself.
I was actually surprised by how much karma I had accrued when I deleted my account the other day, given that the majority of my comments were deep down in threads or niche communities. Often, I was happier to have 10 upvotes than 500, because the comments that got hundreds (or thousands) of points were generally short and quippy. I much preferred the sincere, expansive discussions though, and that was apparent when scrolling through my history.
Edit (Forgot to finish my point): And that kind of stuff is available in oodles on Lemmy. Hell, if anything, it’s easier here, because I feel like it’s way more likely anything I write will be seen and responded to. Maybe in a few years, we’ll be nostalgic for these times.
These will be the good old days, as they say. Lemmy is poised for great things I’m sure, but I don’t think it will never be like this again. I’ll be happy to be proven wring, though.
I’ve been using the Lemmy app and finding myself quite unhappy with it, but stopping to ask “Is this app actually deserving of my ire, or am I just grumpy because it’s not what I’m used to (i.e. not Sync)?”. I think it’s mostly the latter. Don’t get me wrong, Jerboa is nowhere near the level of polish or functionality of pretty much any of the main 3rd party Reddit apps (yet?), it’s just that I’m a creature of habit (and so are many others)
Nah, I agree, Jerboa is just not there right now.
I prefer the webview over Jerboa on mobile at the moment; the higher flexibility outweighs the lower mobile-friendliness for me
I can definitely see it getting great though! With more contribution.
Edit: After using the new latest version of Jerboa (0.0.35), I think I do prefer it over the webview now.
I find Thunder to be more like sync than Jerboa but it’s very new
I would respectfully disagree.
The people who were susceptible to coming over to lemmy as it is are already here. Those who think its too complicated or whatever will stay on reddit.
I think the key to wider lemmy adoption is by focusing on the product, not so much the marketing. While it obviously helps for people to know about it, which many people now do, it doesn’t matter if they come check it out and its a confusing ghost town.
Getting these apps out and filling the platform with communities and content is, I think, much more important than trying to drag people here kicking and screaming.
As the platform becomes better, the people will come.
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I disagree the more people that know about it the better. My friend is an avid reddit user but uses the basic app and regular reddit (not old.reddit) and he never heard of lemmy.world until I told him yesterday. If people know about its existence they will know its an option. He is considering switching as well after telling him.
I don’t think people will be dragged kicking and screaming. They’ve seen the turmoil with Reddit over the past few weeks and are looking for alternatives. This could be good education for them, especially as Lemmy is a bit more confusing compared to Reddit.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted (or at least mixed votes) for this. I appreciate you bringing diversity of thought to the argument and doing it in a constructive way. This is how we get the best possible outcome: by hearing, and actually contemplating, viewpoints different than our own.
Cheers.
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Alot of us, including me, wouldn’t be here using Lemmy right now if people didn’t market it to us.
Even people who otherwise would can’t switch if they don’t know about it.
Marketing is important; nothing wrong with that on its own.
its just semantics chill lil bro
I don’t think it’s a bad idea to say that Sync for Reddit is shutting down, if you would like to follow new projects by LJ, please click here for Patreon or here for Lemmy or something along those lines.
Honestly, I think it needs to be more aggressive than that, as bad as that may sound.
Something like:
"Reddit’s new API policies has made it impossible for Sync for Reddit to continue.
Click here for Sync for Lemmy, an alternative to Reddit, instead. You will be notified when it is out in [estimated time for prototype]."
Would probably be more effective if the app remained the same, and you didn’t need to download a separate Sync for Lemmy from the playstore; do we know which one’s happening yet?
I wonder if this would even be legal though.
I think grabbing more users right now is of utmost importance. If the fediverse needs to grow, now is the chance.
Mastodon had a big spike when Twitter went awol. And nows the chance for lemmy.
