A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco::A Waymo car was destroyed in San Francisco as a crowd began vandalizing it and ultimately set the car on fire. Nobody was in the vehicle at the time.

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    11 months ago

    Well the don’t shift goal posts to “individual transportation” when we’re talking about people thrashing a self driving car.

    They didn’t trash a normal individual transporter.

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        11 months ago

        You can still automate the driving part of moving and delivery services, which is the dangerous part.

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            No. Not securing loads is the dangerous part.

            Jesus christ, you’re trying to argue that driving isn’t dangerous? Ok bud, glad to see you’re approaching this discussion in good faith /s

            There’s a reason you don’t see the likes of UPS or DHL get into automated cars, but venture capital moonshot tech companies promising nonsense on the one hand,

            Yeah, cause they literally started from DARPA’s moonshot program and take massive amounts of cutting edge machine learning to execute, not exactly DHL / UPS’ strong suit given that they contracted out development of almost all of their software until very recently.

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                11 months ago

                Distracted commuters are where the accidents happen, people who should not be using roads but public transportation.

                Yeah, you’re right, there’s no point implementing any road safety standards or technology whatsoever because it would be better if we all just instantly switched to public transportation! Thank god we live in a world where it’s only ever worth it to pursue the most perfect and naïve solution! All we have to do is rework our entire transportation network and tear down existing houses and force the residents to all move into villages! What a perfect solution, totally feasible in the next 10 years.

                What part of “DHL manufactured cars themselves” did you not understand. They know exactly what they need from their vehicles and self-driving wasn’t on the list.

                Lol, DHL didn’t specify self driving because it wasn’t an available option, and they don’t have the technical capability to build, not because they wouldn’t want it. They have an entire page on their website stating explicitly that they are closely monitoring self driving technology as it stands to have a huge impact on their business.

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                    11 months ago

                    Like automated driving? Shit isn’t working, isn’t even close to working to the degree that advocates said it would ten years ago.

                    It is working, Waymo is operating taxi services in two cities successfully, and yeah, it’s turned out to be a harder problem than initially realized, so were smartphones, now they’re everywhere. You know what’s a harder problem that will take longer than decades? Reorienting all of society around villages and public transportation and forcing people to move and abandon their cottages.

                    Meanwhile, public transportation is a tried and true approach that actually fixes issues. It’s vastly more energy and resource efficient and does not create socio-economic barriers to mobility.

                    No one’s arguing against public transportation. Stop trying to make it sound like this is a car vs. public transportation thing, when it’s people trashing autonomous cars and not other cars.

                    Drivers are still used long-haul though because there’s need to do non-driving tasks that AI can’t do, automated trains are a metro thing.

                    And because trains don’t get you to the last mile, roads do.

                    You don’t want a pharmacy to wait for life-saving medicine because someone put a traffic cone on the hood.

                    Again, you’d still have a delivery person for critical deliveries, they just wouldn’t be driving. If someone asshole wants to stop ambulance right now they can too.