No one was inside a Waymo car as it was destroyed.

A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco::A Waymo car was destroyed in San Francisco as a crowd began vandalizing it and ultimately set the car on fire. Nobody was in the vehicle at the time.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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    11 months ago

    My answer is “automated cars will continue to be opposed by the collective unconscious until urban planning related things that are of importance to it are addressed (such as housing, equity, but also plain liability see asphalt deserts), and at that point autonomous cars will not be needed any more”

    Lmfao, ok bud, please point me to the jurisdiction where drivers aren’t killing thousands of people a year.

    You seem to have forgotten the parts of the discussion where you failed to account for even a modicum of edge cases on an even 20 year timeline.

    But that’s a mouthful, I thought you intelligent enough to understand it without being spoon-fed given that you claim to be such an advocate for public transit and modern urban planning, being aware of all its its advantages in most exquisite and intricate detail.

    Everyone getting around by streetcar suburbs made sense 20 years ago too, but I’m glad we didn’t stop all road safety engineering on the assumption we’d do it just because it the logical collective thing to do. You’re living in a fantasy where you’re planning only for the best possible outcome.

    We can probably both agree though, that the actual thrashing of the car was an inevitable result of ever growing wealth inequality.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        I never said that all cars must be abolished. Go, go back in the discussion and check.

        Yes, which brings us back to the point that if any cars are on the road, they should be autonomous, because autonomous cars have the potential to be far safer than humans.

        Either your point is that all cars can be abolished, or that the deaths that drivers cause don’t matter. Either way you’re wrong.

        If you’re talking about the US: No, the US didn’t suddenly start to safety engineer, they’re still hostile to pedestrians over there. On the contrary, 20 years ago SUVs which make children invisible didn’t really exist yet. If you’re talking about Europe: We never abolished public transit. We made mistakes weakening it, but we didn’t abolish it, and engineering for pedestrian safety goes back to at least the 60s, and by the 70s at least the Netherlands had found their bearings.

        Bruh. Seriously. Are you intentionally being dense? The point is not that safety standards suddenly started 20 years ago, it’s that pursuing increased automotive safety standards was still a worthwhile effort in parallel with building public transit, because guess what, even Europe has thousand of car deaths a year, and it’s worth planning for harm reduction strategies even if we don’t get the overall optimum first choice.

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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            11 months ago

            Europe already had public transportation and walkable cities. The US doesn’t.

            Yeah.

            And over here btw noone (serious) is hailing autonomous driving as a revolution or solution to anything

            Yeah, see above. Europe doesn’t hail autonomous driving as revolutionary because it is a super dense area with a well established train network. Europe is not the whole world. Autonomous driving will develop faster than America will become like Europe, how much money would you be willing to bet otherwise?