• Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      Thanks to EU this will be changing in the near future. Personally I’m one of the stubborn ones who refused to buy devices with non-removable batteries and by the looks of it I will never have to either. Hopefully this applies to the headphone jack aswell.

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        9 months ago

        The USB C to audio jack is ok. I’d like to have replaceable batteries, but my last few phones there wasn’t one that had that and what else I wanted. I had to compromise. Glad the EU is forcing things to improve.

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          9 months ago

          I strongly disagree.

          I have yet to buy a phone without a headphone jack.

          I’ve got earphones that are 17 years old and sound great. An audio jack in the car that connects way faster than Bluetooth. A hifi older than me.

          The amount of electrical waste and incompatibilities caused by ditching a universal standard is not small.

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            9 months ago

            The standard still usable, you just need an adaptor. I don’t because Android Auto is my car navigation anyway, so it might as well do audio for podcasts. If I’m out and about, or doing house stuff, my bluetooth ear piece means I can listen to podcasts without wires in the way. At work, I’ve not used wired headphones since forever. I subconsciously chewed the cable and kept pushing out my chair to roll over somewhere forgetting the wire.

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                9 months ago

                Not really, as it’s a standard you could keep the adaptor longer than the phone. Adaptors keep legacy stuff in use, extending their lives.

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                  9 months ago

                  Making up theories that don’t match reality.

                  Is talking to you worth any time at all?

                  All dongles break, especially the fairphone ones.

                  They are initially unnecessary to manufacture, then become unnecessary waste.

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                    9 months ago

                    I don’t get why this works you up so much. The majority of users have gone wire free, and the manufacturers have cost optimized accordingly. They have left backwards compatibility via a standardized adaptor.

                    There is no reason the adaptors have to be fragile. You can probably get cables with the adaptor built in to be honest. Like DisplayPort to HDMI between a PC and a TV used to give that old PC a second life as a media PC.

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          9 months ago

          So how do you charge your phone while listening to music? Plug a splitter dongle into your headphone dongle? When this could be built into your phone? Yes a compromise.

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            9 months ago

            Yer a cable that has both a male USBC and a female USB C and audio Jack. Easy. It’s not worth limiting phone options for. Plus mainly I use bluetooth anyway.

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        9 months ago

        I nearly did, but I wanted to try GrapheneOS. Until now I’ve been LinageOS without Google (over a decade), but I’ve had to compromise and wanted to reduce how much that compromised me.

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          9 months ago

          I know sooner or later I’ll have to degoogle. Maybe once I know the first thing about how to run my home server I’ll get to it.

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            9 months ago

            Nextcloud fills a lot of the hole. I still use Google as little as I can, but I was bumping into apps that were are hard requirement to do things. Banking apps (no seperate security device anymore), EV charger apps (old chargers don’t all have simple card payment) is just two classes.

            We have a real issue here. The duopoly of Google and Apple is being reenforced by infrastructure requiring apps. Regulators need to wake up.

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                9 months ago

                I use Nextcloud for my auto-photo uploads, calendars, contacts, notes and passwords. I’ve been using it at least 8 years. It’s great. 😃