Torx is the only head that needs to exist. The rest can go fuck a rusty chainsaw.
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And then bolts
Square is really good too.
Phillips and flat head bits fit in a variety of sizes of screw heads. We seem to have chosen convenience over performance.
If memory serves me correctly square drive is patented, & thus requires licensing, which is why it’s less commonly used.
This is the way. Also I’m new to Lemmy so forever will this be how I start my experience here.
Torx is hands down better in every way than flathead and Phillips.
Slotted heads, Philips, posidrive, torx, 6 pan and Robertson.
Each has a use, for instance a slotted head, when you don’t need much torque is good enough (like for a screwed in battery compartment).
Anyone who willfully uses a slotted screw on a new project in the presence of even somewhat reasonable alternatives should have a lifetime ban on designing any items for anyone.
Also, use Robertsons, gink.
Fuck electrical wall plates I guess then? It’s so hard to find any switch plates or device plates that come with Phillips instead of Slotted.
Yeah fuck them, i hate those stupid slippery slotted bastards
it’s single valid use: somewhere that you may not have tools but might require an impromptu fix… preferably paired with a much larger screw than technically required so you can use things like coins as a driver
No.
Thumbscrews, or wingnuts.
Yeah, like mounting plates for cameras…. Um, I think that’s the only place I’ve appreciated a slot screw
Sewing machine too! Always using scissors to open that slot screw to change the needle
We put slots on the thumbscrews used on some of our connectors for military radios. This was a soldier can open or tighten them down with a knife blade.
The torx are the most resistant, the rest can also cease to exist.
Torx or Robertson, are the only ones worth a damn.
I’m a Philips type of guy myself.
You have chosen…poorly
Torx is great but fuck security torx
security torx
Do you know what’s the deal with them except having to pay / find extra bits?
If you’re determined enough you can jam a slot screwdriver in a torx and turn it, the security bit makes it so that you have to be REALLY determined when you jam the slot screwdriver in
They’re designed so the average person isn’t gonna have the tools to mess with them.
Most of the sets I own have a hole in them, so I think for the scenario that the average person does actually have a torx set, the chance is pretty high that it’s also one that they can use on those “security” torx screws. So I don’t see them that much more secure than regular torx. The only reason I could think of is that you also can use a normal screwdriver to unscrew a torx, which is harder to do with that extra pin. But it can still be done^^
It used to be more secure but manufacturers started to just put a hole in all of their torx bits to compensate lol. Now it’s pretty much pointless
You could drill your torx but (not advised) or drill the pin(?) on the screw.
Situation: There are 20 screw standards.
John Corporate: “20 standards… I know, I’ll create a new type of screw that will be unique to my corporate overlords and prevent users from repairing their own devices!”
Situation: There are 21 screw standards.
Relevant xkcd:
To be fair, UTF-8 did win the character encoding wars. Kudos to the Unicode designers I guess.
USB also won the cable data war. The 2000s era cables is wild
Yeah, given enough time sometimes one of the standards will win and kill the others, it kinda just depends (in part on luck)
Wish Windows knew that
Americans will do anything the hardest way possible, huh lol
Robbie superiority.
I like pluses and squares. Minuses need to be removed from existence
Minus is great because you can use a butter knife on a pinch to unscrew/screw it
Pozidrive is both!
phillips worst screw self stripping garbage
That is actually a feature of this design. They were the answer to in-line screwdrivers who had no precise stopping torque: cam-out before the thread is damaged.
Bug turned into a feature: https://handwiki.org/wiki/Engineering:Cam_out
I know it’s an intentional feature, but it’s a bad feature. Camming out damages the head of the screw. This exchanges repairability for manufacturing simplicity. Additionally, the sloped shape makes it possible to use slightly oversized or undersized drivers, further increasing the chance of camming out and damaging the screwhead.
To your point it’s a compromised solution for a problem that no longer exists.
6-lobe is life. I got a box of them for a set of stairs I had to rebuild, and the sheer ease of use makes me never want to go back.
Never heard anyone call Torx “6 lobe”. But yes, Torx all the way.
That’s what it’s called on the image and tbh I’ve never been quite sure what a “torx” was until now.
nah you can throw flathead in mental disorders too phillips is the one screw to rule them all and all those nerds can shut up about maths of why the others are technically superior that’s all great on paper but phillips is actually a thing you try using your “perfect” torx screwdriver on any scree you can’t cause none of them are torx phillips is good enough and actually used flathead isn’t even really used that much anymore it’s only slightly less rare than the others and it just plain sucks
Phillips is terrible, it’s literally designed to cam-out, which means it strips if the screw has got seized in position.
Pozidrive is a million times better than Phillips.
This is the way (assuming you want to torque the hell out of something, but that cam out is actually useful, but no one uses them that way.
spline screws >:(
I usually see Spanner type screws in my local hospital.
Square drive on personal projects, forever and always. Maybe I’m buying the wrong torx, Phillips, and flat screws, but they strip out way too often. I’ve never had issues with square drive screws no matter where or how I use them
Yup, anytime I’m driving into solid wood, it’s square head screws. Phillips heads slip out under the stress and end up stripped.
Look at the history of Phillips screws. They’re designed to torque out. Automobile assembly line workers can’t be trusted to not overtighten them
Bug turned into a feature: https://handwiki.org/wiki/Engineering:Cam_out
And please don’t forget that spile and double-hex are different, despite both having 12 points.
