Not every vehicle on U.S. roads receives a crash test rating.
  • Jaysyn@kbin.social
    67·
    9 months ago

    I didn’t realize that NHSF crash tests were even optional for mass produced cars.

    • suction@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17·
      9 months ago

      It’s mainly to get a nice little graphic to put into your marketing materials. Elon knows that the type of sucker who buys his products doesn’t look past the shiny design.

    • Psychodelic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      9 months ago

      What’s the NHSF? You said it like it’s a well known organization or something. lol

      That said, did you think there was a minimum safety rating cars had to achieve or something? That would pretty sweet and something we should totally have. I absolutely love safety regulations!

      • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        There are lots of safety regulations manufacturers must comply with even if their vehicle is not independently tested.

        I think this aligned with the greater frequency of lawsuits in the US. Sometimes it’s more cost effective to enforce regulations by lawsuit than to hire inspections/audits/testing. I’m not agreeing with them at prioritizing, just describing

    • Kbobabob@lemmy.worldEnglish
      49·
      9 months ago

      People love shitting on autonomous driving and I agree that it isn’t ready yet which is why the driver is supposed to still be paying attention, but I think people are way worse and are more likely to cause an accident.

      • elephantium@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        9 months ago

        I think it varies. A trained human who is paying attention is better than the self driving script (for now?), but sometimes the human driver is drunk, busy texting, or someone whose idea of training was “I’ve ridden in cars before, how hard can it be?”

        It’s not hard to outperform those cases, but “better than Drunkotron” isn’t enough to roll out self driving everywhere.

  • _sideffect@lemmy.worldEnglish
    283·
    9 months ago

    Dude, people with money are so fucking boring.

    Bezos could easily buy 100 of these things (yes I know he can buy an infinite amount) and crash test them himself and put out the stats.

    And he’d make money from it as well

  • yuriy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    9 months ago

    Who’s excited to see what a vehicle without crumple zones does to a regular car at 60+ mph? Smart money is on at least one person being split completely in half, but the hail mary returns on “no fatalities” is really tempting.

    • GhostTheToast@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      Look, maybe some by crazy chance, it’s super safe for occupants. However, I think the cars it hit will be sheared a good ways through.

      • COASTER1921@lemmy.mlEnglish
        21·
        9 months ago

        And this is precisely why many people I know want SUVs. Compact cars are simply not safe anymore in much of the United States. I drive a hatchback in Texas and have to pay more attention driving here than anywhere else I’ve lived. The many lifted pickup trucks simply can not see anything other than SUVs, and that ignores the crash testing problems which need to be updated to better reasonable modern roads largely filled with SUVs and pickup trucks.

    • dragontamer@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
      11·
      9 months ago

      Cars move, meaning its reasonably safer to crash into (or against) another car.

      Its concrete walls and trees that you have to worry about. Those things will murder you. Medians, dividers, buildings, trees, power lines, etc. etc. If you don’t have crumple zones, you’re dead.

    • ExfilBravo@lemmy.world
      English
      3·
      9 months ago

      Why pay a crash test team and fund all of that research when tech bros will test it for you! Good luck everyone else!

    • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      38·
      9 months ago

      There’s a number if reasons why it won’t.

      • too heavy. It requires a C1 license, which is basically what you need to drive a full-size truck, which very few people have.

      • too pointy. Safety requirements require all protruding parts to have something like a 4mm rounding, but the dumpstertruck simply has bare, unrounded steel plates.

      • basically nobody drives a pick up, because they’re a stupid way to do anything.

      • Europe mandates a CCS2 connector, which isn’t even an option on the Tesla truck right now.

      And of course, Europe DOES mandate crash testing, which it will never pass. It also requires pedestratian safety, which it will also never pass.

      • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
        8·
        9 months ago
        • basically nobody drives a pick up, because they’re a stupid way to do anything.

        Yes but they are unfortunately becoming more common

        • Europe mandates a CCS2 connector, which isn’t even an option on the Tesla truck right now.

        True, but that’s irrelevant since Tesla models have the CCS2 connector. Having to switch the connector is not a problem for them.

        Obligatory: Yes the car, Tesla, Elon is bad.

      • plactagonic@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        71·
        9 months ago

        I mean it positively - I see more and more of these American “compensatiors” on roads.

        As a cyclist it is worrying and I know few people who use “trucks” for work and noons of them would consider anything bigger than Hylux.

  • Gork@lemm.eeEnglish
    101·
    9 months ago

    That gif at the beginning of the article clearly showcases the lack of crumple zones. The impact energy doesn’t dissipate and you can see the crash test dummies lurch forward with a good amount of whiplash at 35 mph (56 km/h).

    • dragontamer@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
      16·
      9 months ago

      An internal, unreported test by Tesla. That strangely cuts out before the impact and has no statistics or discussion about it’s crash capabilities.