Spiner himself explained,
One of the ideas that John Logan and I had about what the next film would have been was a Justice League of Star Trek. Something would bring all the great Star Trek villains together, from Khan to Shinzon, and Picard is the only person who could stop them and he actually has to go through time and pluck out the people he needs to help him. He goes back to the moment before Data blows up and takes him back to get Kirk and Spock, and go even further back and get Scott Bakula’s character, Archer.
I can’t imagine it would have been good, but boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.
Something would bring all the great Star Trek villains together
thanks, i hate it
Yeah one of the things about star trek villains is that they’re not typically motivated as “I’m evil and want to destroy the world, mwahahaha.” That’s not to say that the writing is always perfect, but they just wouldn’t share enough of the same motives to join forces.
“I can’t imagine it would have been good, but boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.” — This is the perfect reaction and I cannot improve on it in any way.
The best way I have to describe this kind of movie is “delightfully terrible.”
I have a feeling that there are fans of Star Trek V The Final Frontier here.
The lesson should be that bizarre ideas for 5th movies should never be brought to screen.
I like Star Trek V. I’ve never really understood why people say TMP is the most like TOS, I think it has a pretty significantly different tone, but V really just feels like a middle of the road TOS episode with a way bigger budget, and I think it’s a bunch of fun.
Picard pulls Archer through time and Archer turns to the camera and goes, “Oh boy”
Waited four seasons for them to do this throwaway gag on #Enterprise but nope, too silly… but invalidating four seasons of Enterprise by revealing that the whole show was a holodeck program run by Riker… That’s a-ok
Waited four seasons for them to do this throwaway gag on #Enterprise
And they had the perfect episode to do it in too.
I don’t think the whole show was a holodeck program? It actually happened and Riker simply ran a holodeck program based on those events. Still a pretty dumb way to end the show, but I don’t think it invalidates the previous 4 seasons.
Really though, I just would have wanted to see Archer on the big screen, regardless of quality.
This sounds terrible! Thanks for sharing
“It’s revolting!”
“More?”
“Please!”
Star Trek: Gladiator 2.
Taking the time travel from All Good Things and going a little too nuts with it.
Damn I read the ideas for Star Trek: The Beginning. Besides the stupid name it sounds like an awesome idea to see the first Earth - Romulan war and have something bridge the gap between ENT and TOS
The Generations we should have had.
Not even kidding the premise is goofy but with a visionary director and sincere enough attempt, this could have been amazing.
The people in charge of TNG by that point were creatively bankrupt. It would have been a fiasco.
Also, the idea just doesn’t fit Star Trek. It isn’t a comic book franchise, where fan-pleasing callbacks and crossovers are baked into the formula. In Star Trek media, callbacks and crossovers have tended to be some of the worst stories.
Justice league of Star Trek crew ultimate team up….
Where is this movie and how do I pay to see it :/ yes it would likely be terrible but seeing Kirk vs Janeway dynamic or spock vs Kira debates arguments etc
And those are the first two that come to mind
God, this pitch makes so little sense on so many levels. Star Trek has never been about the villains, so having a batman-style villain team-up makes no sense. Seven samurai in space with time travel is a reasonable pitch, but why would you need to build a team that involves a captain, a captain, a science officer, and a captain?
Same reason we got a whole season pulling the old TNG crew back together, I guess
. He goes back to the moment before Data blows up and takes him back to get Kirk and Spock
This reads more like a treatment for Star Trek Generations. as if they realized how stupid that movie is, and wanted to fix it
I love that movie and thought it was a good torch passing. But going any further than they did would be silly.
Would Abraham Lincoln and Surak be on team Starfleet, like in TOS’ “The Savage Curtain” (s3e22)? Would everyone enter a fight suit that would join together into a giant fighting robot that has a shiny Starfleet insignia on it? Justice League of Starfleet. I just can’t.
Star Trek: Voltron does sound kind of dope.
boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.
I have the exact opposite opinion lol
Same! I’ve always considered time travel to be a “plot cheat code” because it allows writers to do whatever they want. This works out ok sometimes but other times it just makes for bizarre stories that defy belief. This would definitely be the latter kind!
I enjoy ST largely because it’s believable (in a broad strokes ignore the details kind of way) so far-fetched stories don’t do it for me as much. Time travel is firmly in “never gonna happen” territory.
We should have gotten some DS9 movies before this mess was ever considered.
