currenrly under or rules people who are being tankies would be breaking multiple. but would you rather have this be made explicit in an anti tankie rule?

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    To avoid the appearance of bias and provide a more agnostic rule that I think makes sense beyond just tankies, I think a better presentation of a rule like this would “No promotion of authoritarian ideologies or actions”.

    While the existing rules do reference fascism, there are subtle differences, and more importantly fascism is a buzzword right now that invites ideological arguments, trolls, etc

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      I’m 100% behind this concept. Authoritarianism is wrong, left or right. Focusing on that doesn’t single anyone out. Is rather fair and unhypocritical. Clear and easily defensible. Less likely to break down into name-calling.

      I definitely have very little love for ML and their more extreme brethren that logically flow from the flawed ideology. But outside the authoritarianism there can be a lot of agreement and even ideological overlap. Better to have good faith debate and rescue those from the authoritarian extremes where we can. Rather than unduly alienating them off the bat.

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    I can’t believe this post has support. This is EXACTLY the same thing as the US government banning Tik Tok. “Let the free market decide… but ban it when it starts breaking through my propaganda.”

    If your ideology is so fragile and authoritarian that it can’t (won’t) stand up to open debate, ironically calling those that oppose your censorship “authoritarian”, it’s time to start admitting that your ideology depends on thought-control.

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        The rule, if implemented, will cause me to unsubscribe. If you can’t handle debate, you are not a true leftist.

        You are demonstrating that you believe your ideologies to be so tenuous and fragile that a carefully constructed blurb from one of these “tankies” (as you call them) could undo all of it in a split second.

        Shit like this makes me want to start my own instance. Censorship is anti-labor, censorship is authoritarian, censorship of simple ideas is thought control. Be better, fellow leftists.

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    Yeah, it would be a lot easier for everyone involved if you would just compile a list of thoughtcrimes ahead of time.