• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    I mean, we got treated better than any colony…

    Th English even turned a blind eye to smuggling for a long time. But eventually they started wanting their tax money, so they confiscated a couple smugglers, drastically limiting their supply. While shipping a bunch of legal tea and selling it cheap to get people used to buying cheap tea in stores legally.

    In response a bunch of smugglers paid some people to dress as Native Americans and throw the legal tea into the harbor. Because now all tea was in short supply, everyone raised prices and the smugglers were able to stay operating and even lobby France to pay for a proxy war and provide generals as a “fuck you” to the English, which was like the French’s favorite pass time.

    America was never about Americans tossing out a tyrant ruler.

    Our country was founded on the rich dicking over the average American so they could accumulate more wealth and power personally.

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        that isn’t such crude reductionism;

        On a website most people make posts that are barely two sentences…

        It never surprises me how often people bitch that I didn’t cover ever single facet of an issue after typing paragrpaghs.

        Like, my comments are already usually long enough people don’t read it all, but I still always get these (incredible short) comments mad that I didn’t spend two hours writing and sources my social media comments.

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      Not sure why you are getting down voted. This is pretty accurate. American history as taught in American schools is essentially indoctrination where all the bad parts are removed.

      Many of the founding fathers were shitty people.

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    A while back some MAGoo posted about how immigrants were all criminals. Highly irate when I pointed out that ‘indentured servants’ were the gutter sweepings of England, and that France would forcibly make male colonists marry women imprisoned for prostitution.

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    I appreciate the sentiment of this, but it’s not quite right, at least in my view.

    The founding fathers / revolution movement had some merit, don’t get me wrong, but it was also the movement of a bunch of drunk farmers and yuppies pouring molten tar on top of tax collectors simply for the crime of being a tax collector. They were much closer to the January 6th types in that way (though obviously a direct comparison can’t be made).

    Sometimes you just can’t make a 1:1 comparison between the past and the present and I’m a firm believer that 18th century politics is a huge example of that. Things are just too complex and many issues don’t neatly align with what we consider party boundaries to be today.

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      See, the joke is that modern conservatives would have supported the British control of the American colonies.

      Which holds significant merit as during the war for independence, the most conservative families were Monarchists which insisted we return to British rule.

      Several of those Monarchist families today make significant parts of the republican leadership.

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        Someone on that boat most certainly wouldn’t say “just obey the kings laws” or “redcoat lives matter”

        They were literally, at that moment, on the way to fight redcoats and hessians

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          That’s the point boss. These people call themselves patriots and say what is in the word bubbles, the folks in the boat were actual patriots and wouldn’t say that. They’re literally pointing out the cognitive dissonance of what these idiots say and what they believe themselves to be.

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            But the “Patriots” of today could just directly be portrayed as confederates without any dissonant subcontext. Why sully a cool painting for a meme

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              It’s a bullshit painting based largely on myth and misunderstanding of history. The dudes on that boat were ready to kill Washington and Washington had a simple choice, lead a fight or die by his men’s hands and hope they don’t have the wish to kill him afterwards or that there wouldn’t be enough of them left to matter.

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                That’s how running a revolution goes. You’re always hanging on by a string

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          I don’t think the person choosing the image for the meme cared, and just wanted a composition of historical founding father significance and enough people for the speech bubbles.

          You are letting your accurate knowledge of history get in the way of appreciating a political shitpost. Consider that.

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            Thank you for your comment. Of everything I read, this is the most sane response. It’s a shitpost to send a specific message.