Where in the Democrat platform says all this?

It doesn’t. Hence,

it’s society in general.

That’s the source. Not politics, society. In fact, politics - aside from the laws implemented, which can be exceedingly bigoted and sexist while attempting to be about equality - doesn’t say much about this at all.

Shoveling cow shit, grain, silage, and tossing 50kg/120lbs hay bales nearly every day growing up as kid on a farm got me started on ruining my body early in life. 12 years as a toolmaker standing on concrete 10 to 12 hours a day and lifting heavy pieces of steel, Then 15 years spent dragging 115+kg/250+lbs patients up from basements and down from upstairs bedrooms as a medic has done little to nothing for my back either.

While stretching and certain exercises could have helped greatly with that, it’s also not something that would have been available to us in our youth. It’s only been in the last two decades that kinesiology, stretching, targeted training, and other body-movement sciences have started becoming widely available. And that doesn’t help anywhere near as much after the fact.

My condolences on the current state of your meat vehicle.

Your source you linked states that women can give birth after 45

Some women can. Most can’t without modern medical help. Again: I already specified that. And by the age of 50, almost no women can get pregnant without modern medical help.

and your claim was wrong they are “essentially infertile.”

The article even says that most women are essentially infertile by the age of 45. So it’s clear that you didn’t read it at all.

You said the upper limit for a woman’s fertile window was 35.

Aaaand there is the outright lying

Nope, never said that. Point out exactly where, then. But you can’t.

What I said is that a pregnancy after 35 is called a geriatric pregnancy by the medical system. And that the optimal wjndow for pregnancies - for them to happen easily, and without major complications - is between 15 and 35.

Because - had you been truly unbiased - you would have pointed out that pregnancies before the age of 15 are possible as well. Because they are, they just aren’t safe or healthy to have.

Ergo, the optimum fertility window for most women is between 15 and 35. Outside of which it becomes materially more risky and unlikely to happen. And after the age of 40 to 45, vanishingly unlikely.

Just shy of 2m tall myself, and I don’t seem to have any of your issues, even nosing into my sixth decade on this rock.

About the only thing I could complain about is the family orchard tractor, which is Chinese-made, and seems to have been designed by someone a full 45cm shorter than I am. But that’s about the only thing I have cause to complain about. Some appropriate warm-up exercises and my knees are fine even after a few hours of vigorous pedal-pumping at inappropriately pretzeled leg angles.

You can give birth even in your 50s safely.

I never denied that. However, pregnancies that had no modern medical involvement in its creation become very rare after the age of 40, and vanishingly rare after the age of 50.

To wit,

“The rate of decline accelerates around the age of 35 and the vast majority of women are essentially infertile by the time they reach 45,”

35 like you originally claimed.

I claimed that pregnancies after 35 are called “geriatric pregnancies”, and that is due to the risks that they bring. This is a medical term, used throughout the industry for pregnancies after the age of 35

And fertility begins to drop noticeably after 32, and really begins to plummet after 35.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way#:~:text=9 External links-,History,"MGTOW Manifesto" in 2001.

If you’re going to be referencing a hate screed by misandrists - and yes, almost every sentence of the Wikipedia article is either a gross exaggeration, a deliberate mischaracterization, or an outrightght lie - then you are operating wholly in bad faith.

Feminism is equal rights for the sexes.

It’s a female supremacist movement.

Have you ever seen Alien? That movie was about forced birth. Do you think a movement that expressly wants to force birth on women by fighting against their rights is the same morally as a movement that wants to stop forced birth on women?

And there is that outright mischaracterization, which is pretty much bordering on a lie, that I was expecting. Most MGTOW have no strong opinion against abortion, because a female exercising her right to abort can also release the man from a quarter century’s worth of unwilling financial enslavement. And many are fully in favour of abortion rights for both genders… which include paper abortions for men, which bring near-complete parity and equality of that right to both sexes.

It’s more than just Democrats, it’s society in general.

You can’t enlist the support of an entire gender by telling them that they are the source of all of society’s evils, and that they themselves are fundamentally evil no matter what, that they are all rapists-in-training, that the world would be better off if they were all killed, and that they are no better than vermin. And more importantly: that when they do something objectionable it is misogyny and bigoted and disgusting and (with some things) even illegal, but when women do it, it is a big nothingburger with zero consequences for the woman.

That’s how you alienate them and push them away.

And the alt-right has stepped in with comforting lies.

Is it any wonder that men have turned away from the left? There is absolutely no visible benefit for them there. So they have gone to where they are openly wanted and desired, where they are intentionally made to feel useful and valued… even though they are just pawns in a class war (Parasite Class vs working class), and will only ever be hurt by those they support.

None of that merits a response.

Ah, the “sour grapes because I have nothing to counter with” argument.

Still, you did take the high(er) road, in that you did not descend to an ad hominem as so many ideologically blinkered people do when their core brainwashing is directly challenged with real-world evidence. For avoiding that, I must actually commend you. So pick up a textbook and bone up on facts, and you won’t be caught with your intellectual pants down again.

Knee and backpain

Some people lose the genetic lottery in this regard, true, but unless you are elderly, most people can avoid back and leg pain by exercising, stretching, and taking care of your body.

standing out in a crowd

Counterpoint: finding the person you are looking for in a crowd.

needing to slightly bend down vor everything in most standard kitchens.

If you are under the age of 35, I fully acknowledge how the deck of house ownership is stacked against you. But once you own your own home, you can… remodel. Kitchens also come in Big & Tall designs, and not all short(er) spouses mind taller countertops. The kitchen that came with my house is sized perfectly for my wife, and yet she finds the height that woukd be ideal for my height to also be more attractive for her as well.

Unless you have a passion for cramped supercars or exceed the height of most door frames… why? The ability to reach the top shelf and things placed at height is just so invaluable. And provided you take care of them, knees and hips still allow you to rummage through things on the down low.

Now, if you’re so tall that you routinely crack your forehead on door frames… yeah. I could see why. But then the question becomes, what is affecting your coordination such that it prevents you from earning millions by throwing an orange ball through a netted hoop?

Your response was, “Won’t somebody think of the men!?”

False. I never said that. I never implored anyone to “think about the men”, or tried to leverage an intellectually bankrupt zero-sum argument like you did.

I said, “is no-one disturbed by the blatant hypocrisy?”

I don’t care about men being ignored. Society treats men as worthless unless they are providing something of value, so ignoring men is par for the course anyhow.

I just hate inequality and bigoted double standards.

most women involved with it will exit out of their fertility window - from age 15 to 35

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Shut the fuck up permanently you goddamned weirdo.

Ah, let me guess - you know nothing about human reproduction and basic biology, no?

Helpful hint: look up the term “geriatric pregnancy”. And look at the statistics of female fertility - without the aid of modern medicine - after 35. Spoiler: it drops off a cliff, and most women are functionally sterile by 40-45.

Stuff like this is covered in post-secondary biology classes at most any university. And it’s not even in the advanced classes - if memory serves, it was a second-year class where I came across this info.

Strange how this appears to be a very close carbon copy of MGTOW - don’t marry, don’t have kids, don’t cohabitate, focus on yourself over chasing skirts - and yet 4B is celebrated and MGTOW is vilified. Surprising how blatant the anti-male gender bigotry gets.

It gets even crazier when you realize that MGTOW is doing that one thing women have been begging men to do for generations - for men to leave them completely alone, to not approach them or flirt with them or bother them in any way - and yet MGTOW men are crucified for doing exactly that.

Hypocrisy, much?

I mean, 4B is a good thing. Humanity is already four times past the planet’s safe carrying capacity, so less humans are what we should be aiming for. Plus, if this 4B thing takes off and has a deep impact over decades, most women involved with it will exit out of their fertility window - from age 15 to 35 - without ever having had a child.

I’m an egalitarian. If MGTOW is a thing, why not 4B? Both should be able to exist.

What I have a problem with, however, is that any fair and equitable society cannot celebrate one and vilify the other. Otherwise, why call it “equality,” when it is anything but that?

Do we need men to experience this as well

Being dead kind of prevents that, in addition to being by far the worse outcome.

“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

- David Frum

There are plenty of programs out there which can end up being required for your workflow - as in, that exact program; no exceptions - and yet, have no Linux or even non-Windows version.

Not everything is a platformm-agnostic subscription-based SAAS yet, nor should that ever be the case.

Also not super enthused about another browser written in C++. I skimmed some of their code and it seems pretty high quality, but still… this is going to be chock full of security bugs.

If you are going to do anything stability-based these days, Rust should be a big consideration.

We don’t have anyone actively working on Windows support, […] We would like to do Windows eventually, but it’s not a priority at the moment.

As much as I applaud this focus on just one broad OS architecture, as it will greatly speed development, leaving out Windows is likely to cut off 85-90% of all early adopters. I just hope that the benefit of a simplified target will outweigh ignoring the vast majority of the market.

And honestly, methinks they should focus on Haiku OS before Windows, as it is closer to a Unix heritage than Windows is. And Haiku OS desperately needs a native modern web browser with all the bells and whistles.

You really don’t know what MGTOW means, do you? Or are you intentionally tarring everything with the same brush in your manufactured outrage?

when there’s a portion of people basically saying you’re scum for being born a man

There is no way of changing these people’s minds, they invariably tend to be zero-sum absolutionists. Any attempt to prove them otherwise will only trigger their victimization complexes.

The only effective strategy is to not engage in the first place, to avoid having anything to do with them even if they are blood and especially if they can be easily avoided.

Unfortunately, this attitude is also held by the vast majority of vocal feminists… which, if you are actively dating, ought to make this one of the first red flags you should be looking for to make women self-select themselves out of contention.

After all, you don’t want to be with someone who hates you for what you are. Leave those venomous vipers on the branch, where they belong.

And yes, this entire strategy works equally as well in the other direction, for women. The difference is that women are far more effectively avoiding men with these red flags than men are at avoiding women with these red flags. Far too many men are far too thirsty to think straight where women are concerned.

what MGTOW offers as a “solution” is misogyny that only serves to make everyone more miserable

So when women go their own way they are lauded and celebrated, but when men do the exact same thing, it’s somehow misogyny??

You can’t have the exact same strategy be lauded on the one hand and vilified on the other, purely based on the gender of the person implementing that strategy.

That’s the dictionary definition of gender bigotry, and is at the core of pretty much every reason why men go their own way.

Even some “woke” Western Asian women can be pretty racist against Asian men.

FTFY.

My wife is Asian, and has seen this in her own female relatives and community friends who have immigrated here or have been born here. None of them would ever debase themselves that far to be with an Asian man unless he was loaded AF.

And my BiL has only ever had one Asian woman take any interest in him, despite being one hell of a handsome man… last time he visited China, he was frequently mistaken for a movie star or a model.