• Wiz
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    20 days ago

    Mathematically, either Biden or Trump will win, with 100% certainty.

    As lamentable as it is for Palestinians, you drawing the line in the sand over foreign policy in Palestine & Israel will not help Palestinians. I would even go as far to say that Biden’s policy on Israel is marginally better than what Trump’s would be. The GOP is actively hostile against Palestine. At least with Biden we are getting (gentle) push-back on Israel.

    So, if it’s a given that either Biden or Trump will win, you have one of four options, depending on your political leaning:

    1. Liberal and vote for Biden. Helps Biden.
    2. Conservative and vote for Trump. Helps Trump.
    3. Liberal and don’t vote for Biden. Helps Trump.
    4. Conservative and don’t vote for Trump. Helps Biden.

    I don’t see any other option, but if someone has one - one that helps Palestine - I’d be interested to hear option 5.

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      20 days ago

      If the choice is genocide or genocide then it’s not a real choice and this election is not legitimate.

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        20 days ago

        In spite of you saying it’s not a real choice, you seem to be choosing #3 or #4.

        Bold choice. We’ll see how it goes.

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            19 days ago

            It is my categorization. But it’s a logical framing.

            I’d be interested to hear if there are any other logical possibilities outside the four I named.

            You might be making an illogical choice, and that’s ok. It is you, and you can make your own choice.

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              19 days ago

              The democratic party realizes it’s losing voters instead of gaining them and reverses course. And yes that requires being willing to carry out the threat of not voting for Biden in November.

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                19 days ago

                You base all your facts on feels, dontcha?

                I won’t be responding any more to you, since you are an untrustworthy interlocutor. And I mean that!

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                  18 days ago

                  Electoral boycotts aren’t new. And our entire political philosophy is based around voters holding elected leaders responsible. Saying we have to vote for someone completely removes that accountability.

                  I base my facts on research and my college education in politics.