The Tardis doesn’t have phasers or photon torpedoes, either. The Tardis has no offensive capabilities at all, whereas the Defiant is an offensive capability.
In interviews, a lot of the crews that worked on models, special effects, and CG have said, paraphrased, “scale went out the window a long time ago, as long as the shot looks cool it’s okay”
Spoilers season 5 ep 1 Doctor Who (new series to be specific)just in case it’s needed, couldn’t figure out the spoiler formatting, yeah old but I wouldn’t want to deprive anyone watching first time
First Matt Smith episode he basically scares off the aliens by saying ‘you can figure out who I am, do you want to continue this?’ … And for some reason they run from the dude who never wants to touch a gun heh. To be fair he always tries talking until they leave him without peaceful options, which makes him an awesome hero.
Of course we all know any battle between them would just turn into the stereotypical “two good guys fight because [reason] and now are teaming up to fight BBEG”
Or the defiant would blow up, almost everyone escapes unharmed, and then the Defiant-A shows up next week like they totally had a second one already waiting.
The Doctors got that industrial, absolutely ludicrous “Moffat” grade plot armor. That shit is utter nonsense, literally. No rule of nature can attach to it. It’s like Toonforce, but stupidier. I can’t even recount the feats, as they generally fall apart as you explain them, but the doctor has proven to have an outsized impact on the universe itself.
Even “J.J.Abriaum,” the core substance of “mystery boxes,” is less dense and illogical, and that shit is banned in most trek canon.
I mean it has no weapons, but at the same time, when your spaceship has the ability to tow planets into suns or black holes, or tow planetary bodies and fling them into other planets, or switch off the false gravity system and crush planets it lands on, or literally materialise around an entire star system. Shit, I’m sure in one season finale the TARDIS had the ability to destroy the entire universe…
I dunno. It seems like despite having no conventional weaponry, the TARDIS has a lot of offensive capability, although the TARDIS is also sentient and seems pacifistic in nature.
Humans can turn nearly anything into a weapon, no argument; even a bicycle has offensive capability. I don’t think it’s being pedantic to claim that the intent being the design is significant in this case.
I read somewhere (Memory Alpha?) that the Defiant was Starfleet’s first pure-play warship, the first starship that whose primary purpose was as an offensive attack craft. Whether or not that’s true, the TARDIS’ offensive capabilities are clearly just side-effects, like the ability to use a wrench as a club. A wrench makes a good club, but that’s not what it was designed or intended for.
The Tardis doesn’t have phasers or photon torpedoes, either. The Tardis has no offensive capabilities at all, whereas the Defiant is an offensive capability.
my point is the obscene number of time travel episodes. its getting fairly egregious here in s5
I thought it was a “bigger on the inside” joke, since the scale is a bit wibbly-wobbly.
hahah yeah, ive just come to accept that nothing in ds9 scales correctly
In interviews, a lot of the crews that worked on models, special effects, and CG have said, paraphrased, “scale went out the window a long time ago, as long as the shot looks cool it’s okay”
The difference is the Defiant is smaller on the outside
The tardis has the most dangerous weapon of all:
The doctor. Dude is a brutal motherfucker.
He’s actively trying not to be a brutal mother motherfucker most of the time.
Spoiler for Doctor Who season 3
For example, when he basically snaps in the Family of Blood he does things that would make Q weep before running away in fear.
Spoilers season 5 ep 1 Doctor Who (new series to be specific)just in case it’s needed, couldn’t figure out the spoiler formatting, yeah old but I wouldn’t want to deprive anyone watching first time
First Matt Smith episode he basically scares off the aliens by saying ‘you can figure out who I am, do you want to continue this?’ … And for some reason they run from the dude who never wants to touch a gun heh. To be fair he always tries talking until they leave him without peaceful options, which makes him an awesome hero.
One of his nicknames is “The Oncoming Storm.” Yeah, I’m not fucking with that.
Ka Faraq Gatri was a better one.
When the godsdamn Daleks call you ‘destroyer of worlds’ you got cred.
Just depends on whose plot Armour is thickest.
Of course we all know any battle between them would just turn into the stereotypical “two good guys fight because [reason] and now are teaming up to fight BBEG”
Or the defiant would blow up, almost everyone escapes unharmed, and then the Defiant-A shows up next week like they totally had a second one already waiting.
The Doctors got that industrial, absolutely ludicrous “Moffat” grade plot armor. That shit is utter nonsense, literally. No rule of nature can attach to it. It’s like Toonforce, but stupidier. I can’t even recount the feats, as they generally fall apart as you explain them, but the doctor has proven to have an outsized impact on the universe itself.
Even “J.J.Abriaum,” the core substance of “mystery boxes,” is less dense and illogical, and that shit is banned in most trek canon.
I think the whovians got this.
I mean it has no weapons, but at the same time, when your spaceship has the ability to tow planets into suns or black holes, or tow planetary bodies and fling them into other planets, or switch off the false gravity system and crush planets it lands on, or literally materialise around an entire star system. Shit, I’m sure in one season finale the TARDIS had the ability to destroy the entire universe…
I dunno. It seems like despite having no conventional weaponry, the TARDIS has a lot of offensive capability, although the TARDIS is also sentient and seems pacifistic in nature.
Humans can turn nearly anything into a weapon, no argument; even a bicycle has offensive capability. I don’t think it’s being pedantic to claim that the intent being the design is significant in this case.
I read somewhere (Memory Alpha?) that the Defiant was Starfleet’s first pure-play warship, the first starship that whose primary purpose was as an offensive attack craft. Whether or not that’s true, the TARDIS’ offensive capabilities are clearly just side-effects, like the ability to use a wrench as a club. A wrench makes a good club, but that’s not what it was designed or intended for.
True, but you also remember why blue whales don’t have teeth or defensive capabilities
their sheer size means they don’t need them