President Biden on Friday delivered a ferocious condemnation of Donald J. Trump, his likely 2024 opponent, warning in searing language that the former president had directed an insurrection and would aim to undo the nation’s bedrock democracy if he returned to power.
On the eve of the third anniversary of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by Mr. Trump’s supporters, Mr. Biden framed the coming election as a choice between a candidate devoted to upholding America’s centuries-old ideals and a chaos agent willing to discard them for his personal benefit.
“There’s no confusion about who Trump is or what he intends to do,” Mr. Biden warned in a speech at a community college not far from Valley Forge in Pennsylvania, where George Washington commanded troops during the Revolutionary War. Exhorting supporters to prepare to vote this fall, he said: “We all know who Donald Trump is. The question is: Who are we?”
In an intensely personal address that at one point nearly led Mr. Biden to curse Mr. Trump by name, the president compared his rival to foreign autocrats who rule by fiat and lies. He said Mr. Trump had failed the basic test of American leaders, to trust the people to choose their elected officials and abide by their decisions.
“We must be clear,” Mr. Biden said. “Democracy is on the ballot. Your freedom is on the ballot.”
I share your objective, but how. The third party approach has been a complete and total failure, and the spoiler effect makes it dangerous. Pushing the Democrats left has achieved at least some minor wins. Third parties have had none.
“But if people just voted third party…”. Great, you found a political strategy that can win, provided that the majority of voters do as their told. If we had that kind of unified engagement, any strategy would win.
If a third party was viable they wouldn’t be a third party they’d be one of the two
Voting for a third party will push red and blue to change more than asking them kindly. As soon as a third party start to get attention red and blue even if still in power will have to go in damage mode not to lose all their voters.
Third parties are not a new concept. Just like the two parties, they have a track record we can look at. This has never happened. Bernie Sanders has pushed the Democrats further left than anyone since FDR, and he only started to make substantive gains when he ran as a Democrat.
If you want to claim that third parties can achieve anything at all, it’s on you to explain what changed. The track record is abysmal.
>Bernie Sanders has pushed the Democrats further left than anyone since FDR
and we still elected Trump and the architect of the crime bill
Go ahead and vote for a fascist or a genocide supporter then. I’m sure this will turn out good and the two party will change its policies because someone on social media is reacting with angry emojis
Agreed. You are getting downvoted by all the Russian and Chinese (and idiot Americans) that just want to foment division. Democracy is on the ballot. Just not the way most people think.
Actually, it’s probably the exact opposite. They want fewer people actually involved in the election, because then they need to convince fewer people to vote for them in order to win. If you effectively remove yourself from the voting pool, by voting for someone who can’t win, you are basically making it so they don’t have to court you, not that they will.
Even if you managed to get a third party elected, it would just revert back to two parties very rapidly. This is the nature of a FPTP voting system. This is not something you can do top down by flipping a switch. It’s gotta go the other way. Work on your local elections.
Go ahead and vote for a fascist or a genocide supporter and remember for the rest of your days that you voted for it
Even if I were to agree with this and I could oversimplify it to this one thing, under the current situation my vote is only meaningful if I choose one of the two. And there is a lot more at stake than a policy difference over support for Israel.
So how the rest of my days play out will not be affected at all by my choice to support Biden in the upcoming presidential election.
You, however, seem blinded by anger. Your third party vote on principle will unlikely free you from this anger. Maybe it’s time to look elsewhere.
Sounds like you are lucky enough not to live in africa, western europe, south america or the middle east otherwise you would taste the consequences of voting for a fascist or a genocide supporter first hand under live bullets.
Sound like you are also not really smart because you fail to realize that the moment your country stop being governed by corrupted politicians in bed with billionares and warlords, public money and the economy would spin in favor of people and not evil corporations exploiting workers and the environment for more profits.
The fact that you think you were able to infer the rest of the paragraph from what I’ve said proves that, despite how dumb I am, I’m still light years more intelligent than you.
i could be a savage living in jungle, the moment you support voting for a fascist or a genocide supporter you have no right to call yourself smart at all.
If I were a betting man, it would be a very safe bet that if we just selected a “savage” out of the jungle at random, they would be more intelligent than you. I would even give you 3-2 odds.
Yikes