He can’t go any further right, so he can’t be pushed right. Ergo, he can only be pushed left. Libs owned us yet again oooaaaaaaauhhh

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    Biden and the rest of the establishment have no idea how many of those uncommitted votes will or won’t vote for Biden in the general, and nothing I say has any effect on that.

    Here is the comment I originally responded to:

    Also, it’s great because the same people who said we could push him left are now mad because… we are trying to push him left

    The only thing I’m saying is that Biden actually has been pushed left, and many of us who think Biden is preferable to Trump are absolutely in favor of continuing to push him left.

    This is one of those Internet bubbles you keep hearing about. You folks have your little in-group, and everyone who doesn’t line up exactly with the group is an outsider. That’s exactly how you convince politicians that you aren’t worth paying attention to. My state hasn’t voted yet. Maybe I’ll vote “uncommitted” like I planned, or maybe I get so fed up with this edgy nonsense that I vote Biden. That’s not likely in my case, but this shit does drive people away. You are more concerned with maintaining your edgy rebel status than actually moving public opinion. I think winning on policy would be a disaster in your eyes because you would no longer be special.

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      You’re contradicting yourself.

      If this is one of those narrow little internet bubbles that ‘you keep hearing about’ then the idea that your liberal tone policing bullshit would have a wide impact doesn’t even make sense.

      And speaking of bubbles, you’ve created one for yourself in which anything outside of voting against your beliefs and interests while promising not even to speak harshly of the people and things you claim to oppose is impossible and unacceptable. Doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of options or room for alternatives in your tight little bubble of reality there.

      Never mind which, again, most people are not American voters.

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      Yes, Biden has been pushed by us, that’s why he put forward a weak ceasefire resolution at the security council. We did that! That’s an accomplishment of the uncommitted movement and the only thing I’m saying is that Biden still has to be pushed farther and that he can be if we stay committed to being uncommitted. It’s clearly working and we don’t need cynics like you undermining our message with Blue No Matter Whoism. This genocide can be stopped, and the only reason it might fail is because of people like you choosing to put vibes over politics.

      I will vote for Biden if he capitulates. That’s hardly edgy rebellion, that’s just normal politics. We’re doing politics. Why does that make you so mad?

      If online discourse makes you so mad that you actually vote for genocide in the primaries you need to log off.

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      Not supporting genocide is edgy nonsense theory-gary

      maybe I get so fed up with this edgy nonsense that I vote Biden.

      You dam lefties were just so rude to me that I had to support genocide, you gave me no choice rage-cry