• @leif@beehaw.org
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    22 years ago

    Can you provide a timestamp where violence is encouraged?

    There’s none and video never said explicitly anything about committing violence.

    What is weird about being anti-racist and pushing back against racism if one encounters it among people they know?

    Basically the video advocates for pushing back against injustices of the world - not only racism, but all of them; racism here is just an example. Here I’m trying to understand what does it imply and how it actually would look like in real world.

    Many people might simply not know that they’re acting racist and if you push back against them at that random moment (let’s call it aggressive approach), it looks like you’re picking up on them.

    They dig their heels to prove that there’s nothing wrong this and that joke.

    At this point there’s nothing you can say to change their mind. Your best bet would be simply excluding them from your friend list as an act of being anti-racist.

    On the other hand, if you talk to people on fair grounds, tell what you know about the subject without antagonising them (or maybe even without acknowledging their past mistakes), you’d get much easier time to get them to listen. Let’s call it diplomatic approach.

    I think that diplomatic approach works much better in the society where people are close: like families and friends

    • @BendingUnit
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      12 years ago

      I don’t understand why you would say it sounds like it’s encouraging violence and then turn around and tell me it’s not. Very strange.

      I’m sure the scenarios you pictured have and will continue to happen. I would bet that dozens or even hundreds of variations have and will continue to happen as well. Different people present things differently, receive things differently, and mull things over differently, or not at all. That’s why it is so important to continue confronting racism and other issues to the best of our abilities. The changes we need to see won’t happen all at once, but if we do nothing, they won’t happen at all.

      • @leif@beehaw.org
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        12 years ago

        why you would say it sounds like it’s encouraging violence

        I just applied broader definition to this concept. Here’s a post explaining it, we can discuss it there if you want.

        confronting racism if we do nothing

        The mechanics of how to appropriately “confront” the world’s issues worry me a lot. And while I do good in this area, I accept that some ways might be simply counter productive.

        I don’t claim the suggested ways in the video to achieve its goals are counter productive but I do wanna know more about it.

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          2 years ago

          Thanks for the video! Philosophy Tube had a video on that very topic several years ago. If that’s the angle you were approaching that from, I would opine that your word choice was significantly confusing.

          I ought not discuss any further until I’ve had a chance to actually watch the Innuendo video of topic. Thanks again for the link.