• whoreticulture
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    7 months ago

    Not sure, I’m not involved, just have friends who are! They talked about the national activism but never talked about being involved with that, only rituals, so I think for them it’s about having a space to participate in ritual activities that are ideologically aligned as they are very much atheists.

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      7 months ago

      Same here - however I will note that rituals do not have to be in a congregation, lots of people do solo ritual and practice as well. A lot of these practices really could fit under the broader Pagan umbrella.

      For the Satanic Temple, however, these are largely just symbolic and aren’t supernatural or anything else like that really (from what I’ve learned from friends, coworkers, etc)

      Satanists don’t even believe in satan (uuuusually, LaVeyans are atheistic but thesistics literally believe, so there’s some nuance there - as is for most religions)

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        7 months ago

        Yes, there are many rituals … the ritual of graduation ceremonies comes to mind as one that is secular, and broadly recognized … also weddings. These are separate from the legal and institutional paperwork that formalizes getting a degree or marriage, but still important for individuals and their communities.

        I was not trying to imply that rituals are always supernatural, or that the Satanic Temple rituals are. It is good you pointed that out because it’s common people don’t really understand what rituals are, especially when you’re talking about paganism or Satanism, where “ritual” can be used in this nefarious, chic-tract way 🙃

        That doesn’t make them less of rituals, same with the Satanic Temple. What is interesting about the Satanic Temple is that they very explicitly address the topic of rituals. It’s like, yes people need rituals, but a lot of the time it’s tied to the belief in a supernatural power. But the embodiment of a belief or will or intent or whatever through the form of ritual can be psychologically extremely powerful, and they explicitly name that that’s what they are doing.

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          7 months ago

          Couldn’t agree more - humans are very much so ritualistic beings. I find that most people just white-wash the word ritual with “routine” instead.

          Thanks satanic panic!