• archomrade [he/him]OP
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    Imagine having so much contempt for the average democratic voter that you think they literally wouldn’t understand what a genocide looks like if you showed it to them.

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      Imagine having so much contempt for the average democratic voter that you think they literally wouldn’t understand what a genocide looks like if you showed it to them.

      Oh, okay, so the overwhelming support for Israel’s genocide these past 20+ years is just, what?

      Please, tell me what the previous support for Israel’s genocide was. I’m interested in hearing what exactly you think it was, if not looking at a genocide and not recognizing it.

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        Oh, okay, so the overwhelming support for Israel’s genocide these past 20+ years is just, what?

        Bi-partisan American propaganda.

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          Bi-partisan American propaganda.

          So… the electorate looked at a genocide and didn’t recognize it for what it is. Great, glad you agree. Or is it “Imagine having so much contempt for the average democratic voter that you think they literally wouldn’t understand what a genocide looks like if you showed it to them.”?

          Oh, as a reminder, this is the statement of mine you initially accused me of having contempt for democratic voters with; please spot the difference between your claims of propaganda and mine:

          “Most Americans don’t pay close attention to foreign affairs and some 50 years of steady pro-Israel propaganda funded by the Israeli state has entrenched views to the point where the past ~20 years of intensified genocide barely raised a blink in the general population; the current propagandized pro-Israel depiction of the genocide, relying on the atrocities of October 7th, still holds sway in a large percentage of the electorate, as well as the notion of Israel as the ‘only democracy in the Middle East’.”

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            the electorate looked at a genocide

            So, you think democratic politicians have been showing the electorate a genocide? You think they’ve been making any case for it?

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              So, you think democratic politicians have been showing the electorate a genocide? You think they’ve been making any case for it?

              Ah, I see, you only believe that the electorate can see what their candidates show them. Very interesting and aristocratic outlook on how democracy is supposed to function. I guess we must have just been blessed with magic eyes, or something.

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                Do you really not think politicians have any power to present evidence to support their positions?

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                  Do you really not think voters have any power to see very prominent international issues other than in the narrow frame that a small number of candidates depict them in?

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                    Most Americans don’t pay close attention to foreign affairs and some 50 years of steady pro-Israel propaganda funded by the Israeli state

                    vs.

                    Do you really not think voters have any power to see very prominent international issues other than in the narrow frame that a small number of candidates depict them in?

                    Which is it? the electorate is powerless to propaganda or well-informed by a diversity of information?

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              The electorate were starting to be shown it, but not by politicians.

              Which is why Congress unified and moved so quickly on TikTok.