WASHINGTON, D.C. – After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve.

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    8 months ago

    Israel is an Apartheid State. Palestinians have lived under the military control of Israel for generations, enforced with daily violence both direct and indirect. For People living under apartheid, liberation is the end of that apartheid state. That means coexistence, you’re the one thinking that means genocide.

    What does liberation look like to Hamas?

    For Hamas, and for the Palestinians, it can be either a two-state solution or a one-state solution. If you ask this question to a Hamas leader, he would say, “I don’t have the answer, because I’m not the one who decides. I’m not going to talk about what the Palestinians will want in the future. We’re just dealing with the national liberation struggle at the moment.”

    So there’s not necessarily a clearly defined goal. It’s about getting to a better position day by day.

    Of course. You know why? Because on the Israeli side, there is no clear position. Sometimes they talk about achieving an agreement, but they don’t know what this agreement would look like. Most of the time they say that they don’t want the Palestinians to have a state. There is no clear vision.

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        Hamas’ atrocities against civilians are not justified, dude. If you’re against that you should recognize Israel has attacked magnitudes more civilians both before and certainly after Oct 7th, especially women and children.

        Understanding the context as to why these attacks happened is not a justification, it’s necessary to understand and recognize the underlying reasons in order to determine an avenue for peace and end the hostilities.

        You’re the one justifying Israel’s genocide with that last sentence. Wiping out Hamas has been their justification for targeting and destroying Hospitals, Schools, Refugee Camps, and Aid deliveries. That’s the justification for cutting of all water/electricity/medical supplies on top of an unending bombing campaign that target civilians and civilian infrastructure. Everyone in Gaza is facing Catastrophic risk of Famine, a man-made famine by Israel blocking aid, food, and water, dozens have already died and many more soon will without help.

        Hamas has committed war crimes, documented by Human Rights Organizations. That doesn’t change the fact that Israel is responsible for the Settler Colonialism, Ethnic Cleansing, and Apartheid that is the foundation for all this violence. Israel holds all the power to end the conflict, but has instead only increased hostilities with Apartheid State Violence and Settler Violence.

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            8 months ago

            No, Hamas can’t end the apartheid and occupation by surrendering. You fundamentally misunderstand the development and continuation of the occupation. You’re also making things up about why Hamas decided to attack instead of learning the actual reasons.

            I’ve already given links to learn about the escalation of violence in my first response. Seems like you’d rather believe what you want to.