Who are some people that started out as ghouls and made a turn for the better? Bonus points if it came suddenly and from their own realization.

I thought about this for a while and the ones I could come up with aren’t really that good.

  • Emperor Puyi.
  • Jeffrey Sachs went from doing shock therapy to Russia to defending their right to defend against NATO expansionism on a lib news show, but that’s been his only good moment to my knowledge.
  • Jimmy Carter but he never changed course when he needed to, not much he can do to undo the harm he did as president.
  • Patty Hearst but she really wasn’t doing anything bad, just came from a wealthy and powerful family much like Puyi.
  • Pat Tillman was deployed when he had a change of heart and contacted a bunch of reporters, sadly he was killed by another troop before he got to make much of a difference.
  • Peter Daou but he’s largely irrelevant
  • That natsec ghoul that wrote the article about quitting her job because she doesn’t want to be complicit in genocide.
  • Whistleblowers like Chelsea Manning? I don’t know off the top of my head how involved she ever was with the war on terror, but she was a troop.
  • Malala and Greta were never ghouls, but did grow from lib media darlings to qin-shi-huangdi-fireball over time so honorable mention to both of them.

I guess the most obvious example that does satisfy my criteria is Kissinger, who really popped off when he died.

edit: You do not, in fact, have to hand it to Puyi before he was re-educated.

  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    JFK went from rabid redbaiter anti communist to wanting to dismantle the CIA and establishing back channel communications to normalize ties with the USSR. Of course we know how that turned out.

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    3 months ago

    The woman who killed Che’s murderer.

    I forget her name but she was of German descent and was raised by Nazis who escaped Germany to South America by the ratlines.

    I’m not saying that she was a Nazi herself that did a full 180 but to be raised in a culture like that and then in adulthood to join the ELN and to take out the Bolivian military commander who ordered Che be killed is very impressive and also heroic af.

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    3 months ago

    Eh you know what, knowing how puyi treated his concubines is probably too much to expect. I’m not gonna press this

    Edit: Actually my mind is changed back again. Ignoring men abusing women is actually fucked up.

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      3 months ago

      You’re completely right, I was ignorant of how long he was emperor before he was re-educated. I mistakenly thought he barely had any time to start doing the usual noncery and abuse, but he did have several years of getting servants beaten and abusing concubines. Sorry for that blindspot.

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    3 months ago

    You could also make the argument that Stalin went from anti-social highwayman to possibly the most pro-social highwayman of all time by using the proceeds from his plundering to fund the Bolsheviks. I think he’s kind of a bad example, though, because by the time he had any prominence he never really made a significant turn for the better (maybe I’m wrong).