• 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    2 months ago

    Keep in mind that if any of this is true, it’s still only true if the baby is viable to bring to term and won’t kill the mother without an abortion. If the fetus is already dead and leading to an infection, or many other things that could happen, bringing the thing to term ain’t gonna help shit.

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      Yeah people grossly underestimate the dangers of bearing a child, even a healthy one.

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    You also have a decreased risk of ovarian cancer if you completely remove your fallopian tubes, and it doesn’t require an 18.75 year financial, emotional, medical, and time investment to gain.

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      Its longer than that these days. I was out for a bit in my 20s but in my 30s I had to move back because there is no realistic way to live in my own house and all I have to show for my work history is back pain, meniscal tear, poor vision, constant migraines, deteriorated mental capabilities and social skills, probably other crap, debt.

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        I’m also like that. I only have a job thanks to Hungary’s ultra-bullshit public employment program, which pays half the minimum wage for a full time job, because otherwise I would go to the pub drinking.

        I have multiple disabilities, with the most severe of them caused by the very medication I’m taking to treat one of them (anti-seizure med side effects are so bad I’m thinking of quitting it, if I die then I die), and only one of them are eliglible for a mere 10% cut of my taxes, if I could prove it to a very strict board which was implemented due to the “welfare queen” myth.

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    Counterpoint: There’s a correlation between being forced to have a child you’re not ready for and having your fucking life ruined.

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            The famous sentence is that correlation isn’t causation, the inverse is always true. Correlation means that two things tend to increase and decrease together or inverted, that they both have a relation with whatever else. Causation means that one thing is the cause of another thing, meaning that one or several things increasing or decreasing are the sole cause of another thing hapenning.

            By definition, causation implies correlation, but the inverse isn’t true.

            Small example: months where more icecream is eaten have an increased average of tanned people, on average. Does this mean that eating icecream gets you tanned? Nope, it means that on summer people eat more icecream (partial causation) and on summer people go more to the beach and get tanned, again, being summer isn’t the causation of getting tanned, it’s just a correlation because it’s sunnier. As we know, being in the sun is the causation of getting tanned.

            In any case, either you mixed the two terms or you got confused, I hpe this clarified it :]

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            By definition you can’t have causation without a correlation, but the two aren’t the same. It does feel like your original intent was ‘correlation doesn’t equal causation’ though.

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    You are also significantly less likely to die from a gunshot if you’ve never owned a gun.

    But hey, statistics only matter if they support your already held views, right?

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    And if you keep the thing around for another 18 years it’ll be able to buy you a beer, but only if it hasn’t already eaten you out of house and home, or shot up its middle school, or outlived you by 18 years after you died of postpartum hemorrhage. The whole topic is ridiculous.

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    Compared to healthy microbes in human guts, that’s nothing. But when we take antibiotics, we kill those microbes. I guess it is immoral to take antibiotics then.

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      Gut microbes are people too! They deserve full citizenship! Many are multicellular and have a circulatory system like a ❤️ beat. That means they deserve full citizenship status.

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    I’ve heard something about women that felt like they’d became dumb after having a baby and their overall mental capabilities became permanently worse. I can’t imagine going through all the suffering just to suffer more and bring a new life into a present and future of also suffering.