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      This is not intended to defend Israel. From what I’m seeing, what Israel is doing here is heinous. For example, the mass graves at al-Shifa hospital.

      This is just intended to point out that the modern usage of the term “anti-semitic” has come to mean “anti-jewish”, even if that doesn’t really fit with the older history of the word “Semitic”.

      From the Wikipedia article on “Semitic People”:

      Semitic people or Semites is an obsolete term for an ethnic, cultural or racial group associated with people of the Middle East, including Arabs, Jews, Akkadians, and Phoenicians. The terminology is now largely unused outside the grouping “Semitic languages” in linguistics.

      The terms “anti-Semite” or “antisemitism” came by a circuitous route to refer more narrowly to anyone who was hostile or discriminatory towards Jews in particular.

      In 1879, the German journalist Wilhelm Marr began the politicisation of the term by speaking of a struggle between Jews and Germans in a pamphlet called Der Weg zum Siege des Germanenthums über das Judenthum (“The Way to Victory of Germanism over Judaism”). He accused the Jews of being liberals, a people without roots who had Judaized Germans beyond salvation. In 1879, Marr’s adherents founded the “League for Anti-Semitism”, which concerned itself entirely with anti-Jewish political action.

      Objections to the usage of the term, such as the obsolete nature of the term “Semitic” as a racial term, have been raised since at least the 1930s.

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        So Israel is using the Nazi’s definition of Semite. Pretty sure the logic to stop using that would be the same as the reason we stopped giving credence to the Nazi’s definition of Aryan.

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    First they called the antifascists “fascist.”

    Then they called the anti-racists “racist.”

    Now they are using “Antisemitism!” as a pretext to make laws enforcing antisemitism.

    I don’t even think old’ Goebbels would be able to make head or tails out of this.

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    But… Israelis use that phrase…

    I’m lost at how lost or government buffoons have become.

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      Imo it’s antisemitic when used by pro-palestinian protestors and anti-arab when used by pro-Israelis.

      Insinuating either of the groups, or any other group, should be purged from the region is inherently pro-genocide, doesn’t matter which side is saying it.

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    Netanyahu Says ‘From the River to the Sea,’ a Phrase Zionists Claim is Genocidal

    Benjamin Netanyahu rejected the notion of Palestinian statehood in a news conference on Thursday, claiming it “would endanger the state of Israel.” But he also invoked geographical language that has become a point of bitter contention as Israel’s continued military bombardment of Gaza continues in response to the Hamas attack of Oct. 7, saying that “in the future, the state of Israel has to control the entire area from the river to the sea,” according to an English translation of the speech from Israeli news channel i24News.

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    Crazy that we are talking about an areas maybe 1/4 of the size of Chicago, when talking about Gaza. There are like only 6 land exists, 1 through Egypt and the rest through Israel.