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It doesn’t seem like it’s actively collapsing but there is definitely a slow decline in its early stages. There’s a noticeable uptick in the number of bots and they aren’t being caught and deleted as quickly. There’s also a lot of subtle protest going on such as r/DIY making their automod be as obnoxious as possible. It’s still working and there’s still content but there’s a noticeable pallor over the place.
If you’re still using Reddit, please be a homie and spread the fediverse gospel
I will. But I do want to say that it’s my personal opinion, that yes, we definitely should grow as a community with more reddit refugees, but I don’t think it’s a bad thing to grow relatively slowly. On the technological side, we need the infrastructure growth to match the user base growth. Maybe even more importantly, I think most of us will agree we want to take the good of reddit with us, but definitely not the toxicity. Copy pasting the whole user base to the fediverse could lead to also copy pasting the culture that exists over there now. The thing I most enjoy on Lemmy is definitely the general vibe over the content for now, and that is pretty special on the Internet.
Also, we don’t necessarily need a big userbase. Just a good active one. More is not necessarily better in my opinion.
Smaller is also much more manageable.
I like the collective ‘we’ makes me feel all warm and federated inside.
We don’t need to be REDDIT big but…ayo you people need to post more so i can scroll an unhealthy amount all day.
Also, we don’t necessarily need a big userbase. Just a good active one. More is not necessarily better in my opinion.
Unfortunately, the main benefit of having a large userbase is that you can always find a community for any obscure interest you have! That’s not really the case with lemmy now.
The only thing I’m missing so far is the diversity. I used to follow lots of different ‘Ask’ subs for countries and regions around the world, and some others for different communities. So far I haven’t seen that here.
Bluesky is super-fun right now, because it’s got just enough folks to generate varied content, and everyone is playing ball on the same level.
And that’s largely because they’ve kept it invitation-only, so the users are all approximately simpatico. That can’t last though. Eventually they’ll have to open it up and let in the shills, the grifters and the racist uncles.
Bluesky is proprietary garbage, not free and with limited access.
If we want to be free we have an alternative to twitter/bluesky called nostr.
Let’s not encourage golden cages and we won’t have to regret it later when the obvious happens.
The nostr community reminds me a lot of the current state of lemmy, I hope with the growth of both communities it doesn’t get lost.
Absolutely, I would be happy if we stayed where we are on the main subs with niche ones growing a bit. Game specific subs are still pretty barren with most of the content being three or four people. I could use some of that growth for sure.
A few hundred comments and consistent uploads are all I think we really need to keep chugging along.
Every day of people still using Reddit is a day when a portion of humanity’s ability to communicate is controlled by one psychopath.
notes to self:
- no, that did not say “hornie”
- check system font settings on this computer
- maybe start a c/keming
also FUCK yeah markdown
I wonder if r/keming used to say “Currently 300 hornie online”
Hallelujah!!
My time on Reddit died simultaneously with Apollo. I’m doing what I can by not giving that place anymore traffic from me.
Found out about Lemmy yesterday. While it’s not there with niche interests at this point, it definitely cures the itch.
You want to stick it to the man? Quit going there altogether people!
Same for me with Boost, and SAME for me with Lemmy lol. I’m using Liftoff now
Yeah I feel the same way. I’m on here and it’s working but I also do miss my years and years worth of subs I joined that made my feed perfect to what I liked, especially the smaller ones that I hope make it over here someday. Right now my lemmy feed just mostly feels like meme after meme or some politics post which is not really what I like at all so I may have to spend some time and figure out how to narrow my interests more on here.
You can get your multireddit and import it to some clients, like voyager/wefwef
That’s definitely the worst part for me too. But if people make the switch here and the user base grows and over time you curate your feed here, it could eventually be that again.
I’m just ready to sacrifice that to say “screw you” to Reddit. Finding this platform has just been a pleasant surprise
Reddit is really killing itself with bot mods. Its less tollerant than ever. they will ban all human users wuthin a few months at this pace.
Good
This place is a lot better than I expected it would be tbh, and I’ve been here a couple weeks now. It’s encouraging to see.
I’m lucky that my curated feed was mostly open source coding, AI tech and solar punk so I’ve been able to find even better communities than Reddit had. The less tech adjacent subs will take longer to build but you can see them starting to establish - I guess the best way to help that is to participate in them and to introduce other people to them.
Welcome! You’ve probably seen it around already, but just in case, you can search at lemmyversenet/communities and may turn up some of those niche communities that are just difficult to find otherwise. Ofc, maybe they don’t exist yet, but always worth a look!
if you are on iOS, use Memmy. it’s really close to Apollo functionality :)
there’s also many iOS clients in beta right now too
Voyager on Android is good too!
just looked at it as well. it’s a web app but it seems cool! i also like how it’s self hostable too
They have an app link too, so it’s easy to use on the phone standalone.
Trying it out right now on my phone for a bit, i still like memmy a lot more tho :)
Im part off your Username Ü
You’re inside of me
Which app are using if you don’t mind me asking?
I recommend Voyager, basically a beat for beat recreation of Apollo for Lemmy.
Just using the Lemmy app
stock lemmy app does not exist yet on iOS publicly
My bad, Memmy
all good!
Now try wefwef it’s like Apollo
Name was changed to Voyager, fyi
thank god, ive been avoiding wefwef just due to the name alone
I’m using memmy; it’s pretty similar to Apollo as well.
I like Memmy better. Inspired by Apollo also.
Heads up it’s officially called Voyager now.
I’m using Memmy for Lemmy and the dev has said they were inspired by Apollo. There’s even a shoutout to Christian on the github page. It’s just had it’s official app store launch, definitely worth giving a try.
I would say Mlem is also inspired by Apollo, so I would recommended it as well; I keep jumping back and forth between Memmy, Mlem and wefwef.
Tried Thunder and Liftoff!, but they feel very Material Design-y to me, so using them on iOS feels off. Which is a shame because both are pretty fast.
Lemmios is also promising, but it’s still on early development so it’s a bit rough around the edges.
I’m also on Memmy and I like it!
My screen time was more than halved when Apollo went down, it’s slowly increasing with wefwef though which is probably bad for me but still fun
Shhh just gimme some of that internet copium and doomscrolling, I need my endorphins
If it was like OceanGate’s collapse, it would have happened all at once extremely fast.
I uninstalled it. I can’t stand the “r/Hegetsus” promoted religious ads. It said it could not be blocked.
He get sus
haven’t been back (and wont) but it really seems people here on lemmy tend to exaggerate the situation
I’ve only been on there to search for specific things and I’ve noticed a lot more spam in the search results.
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Thank you for saying this. When I created it, I thought it was a nice pun, a good way to revive the bad pun dog meme and I stand by it that there is some truth to it. I definitely wasn’t expecting it to become my post with the highest exposure to date, or for a post made in a shitposting community (!) to be taking this seriously.
That being said, I still think Reddit is in trouble. As I pointed out in a previous comment, there are still more than 2000 subs in the dark, moderation is at an all time low morale, bot traffic is increasing, re-posts are increasing, content quality is decreasing, comments are increasingly toxic. etc. There are definitely a lot of small subreddits where there is no change noticeable. But saying Reddit is back to business as usual doesn’t seem very realistic to me.
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I use old.reddit and will continue to use it. However, since they killed 3rd party apps. I no longer use reddit Apollo on my phone. If they eventually kill old.reddit. That will be when I stop desktop usage.
Shhhh dont give them any ideas
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When Boost client broke I stopped checking reddit.
baconreader for me
👌👍🤣
Big old helping of copium in this thread
Not sure what this place will evolve in to but it seems like a nice replacement for Reddit. There is a lot of work to be done for people to re-build the communities and transfer the information but if enough people buy in to it… years down the road this could be the place to be.
I agree, Rome wasn’t build in a day, it takes consistent effort to create a thriving community.
We just need to fortify against the invading “Barbarian Hordes” (I mean Zuccs and Eloy)
I only briefly browse old.reddit, my mobile usage is zero now Apollo is dead.
Lemmy is okay but it’s kind of a chicken and egg, less content means less users, but less users means less content.
It also doesn’t help that users are split between instances, so Firefox on lemmy.world will have different content/users than Firefox on lemmy.ml.
I can see that not driving people away but confusing people that aren’t massively tech savvy.
I can see that not driving people away but confusing people that aren’t massively tech savvy.
This is a disadvantage early, but it also weeds out a lot of the critical mass ignorance and a lot of the people who are unwilling to make any effort to think critically. I’m really looking forward to how it grows. The more popular it gets the more the pressure will be to have it be user friendly. Right now it feels like reddit from about a decade ago.
You can browse all across both instances though since they are federated.
Yeah, I know that, but on Reddit you could go to /r/Firefox and be almost guaranteed that that was the main place that people interested in Firefox would congregate. If you started scrolling, you’d see pretty much everything that anyone posted. For bigger subs there generally was one place to go to find that content.
While here, I could be on .world and see some stuff, but then I’d have to go to .ml or some other instance to see other stuff. Then you’ve got almost duplicate posts on different instances.
It’s just kind of messy. You can’t be on .world Firefox community and also see posts from the many other Firefox communities on the other instances, at least if you can I don’t know how you do it.
Sure, you can view all and see everything from everywhere, but that’s literally everything from everywhere, not just Firefox related stuff.
Don’t get me wrong, I like it here, and it’s good to have a potential viable alternative to Reddit. I’m just not sure how it’s going to catch on with Joe Public unless there is a way to tie the same/similar communities from different instances into the one view while still keeping them separate.
It would be nice if there was a way to group communities across instances so you can view them all at the same time. I would love to create an “Android” group that has all the different Android, Google and Google Pixel communities on one page.
If you find such a thing, mind replying here? I want the exact same thing.
I see what you’re saying, yeah you have to subscribe to the different instances of it which isn’t very intuitive if you don’t know you need to do that.
I think some of the app developers are working on solutions or multi subscribe though for communities.
Major software foundations like Mozilla, and other large institutions, should be hosting their own instance and have official communities. Even on silos like Reddit, you’d have several alternate subs for the same topic. Before multis were a thing, it was in the same boat.
I would like to see instance features like “see this story in x other communities” links for reposted link posts though.
This would be awesome. I followed nws on Twitter for my local area and wish they would migrate elsewhere, esp now that you have to log in. I follow via rss now but am not sure if or when that will be taken away.
It doesn’t help that Firefox will still be at different places with different contents. They should do something about user experience. It’s very confusing for non tech savvy people.
The split instance thing is actually great, if you don’t like a site that’s fedded with lemmy.world then you can just find one that blocks it- or make one yourself and put your communities there.
I kinda feel like usage quirks like these are something that could become cultural knowledge overtime. Usenet was hardly user friendly but managed to get a huge user base and still does I think (although probably mostly because it was first)
When reddit had the same amount of content that lemmy has right now it was already its user’s main timewaster
It’s just a matter of time
There’s also power in just existing and becoming an increasingly more viable alternative to reddit. Between disappointment in the mods and how centralized things are, racist stuff invading the front page, ads, admins, … the less painful the transition becomes from one timesink to another the more the risk to Digg their own grave becomes threatening
The only thing I’m scared of is whether lemmy is capable of standing up to bad actors with its decentralized architecturr because if we imagined it becoming, say, half as popular as reddit; we’d start getting astroturfing campaigns and spam. And vote-manipulation is way easier here, and so is ban evasion
you can see stuff on ml from world with the “all” button
What if I want to browse the Firefox subreddit in one place, where all its content is gathered in a single location?
that’s what the “all” button is for.
but that gives you All of All, not just All of Firefox
That’s like saying you signed up on both GMail and Yahoo Mail so you can get email from both Google and Yahoo users. I don’t understand why federation is such a difficult concept for people.
But you send email to specific people/groups of people. You don’t generally browse for email.
You can choose more freely your subscriptions and info, not based in a unique-centralized and biased source, but from a community of servers which resist to the monopoly of the internet.
