• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Another of the bazillion reasons why you shouldn’t vote Democrat or Republican, but you will.

    Unfortunately.

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      2 years ago

      You should be ashamed of yourself with the whole both sides thing. You’re not, but you should be.

      Unfortunately.

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        I’ve observed 40 years of Democrats solely enabling rollbacks of economic and social power, and then pretending to be powerless when we need them to stand up and do something. There’s nothing shameful about acknowledging that they’ve become collaborators.

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            I mean, it really is.

            The minimum wage is, and has been, stuck at 7 bucks an hour for 15 years. Abortion is now illegal in most of the country. Trans people are living in fear for their lives under a Democratic president who had control of Congress for two years. We have unlimited funds for like 9 wars, and one of those wars isn’t even ours, but diabetics are being charged a mortgage payment to inhabit their own body every month. We find five billion in charity for Israel every year even though they don’t need it and entire towns in this country have poisoned water pipes. Neither Democrats nor Republicans are doing anything about the increasing scarcity of housing even though that is becoming a legitimate crisis in most major cities. To top it off, Democrats even withheld $600 of the $2000 in COVID aid they promised us when we gave them a majority.

            It is literally unfortunate. I appreciate your pithy tone though.

          • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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            2 years ago

            Democrat is the better option

            I don’t know how anyone can come to that conclusion, especially if you’re a wage earner, or need health care, or education, or to not be in fear for your life as a trans person. Democrats do nothing meaningful when we hand them a majority and all of their supporters just offer up excuses like they’re somehow powerless.

            I suspect you are hinting at revolution, but you won’t get off the couch. Be the change you want to see.

            I know I’m shouting into the void. The voting population in this country votes Democrat or Republican no matter what their politicians do. No one is willing to hold anyone accountable. We’re powerless. The best anyone can do for themselves in this country is to take all of the money you might donate to a politician and invest it in the stock market instead. At least your money will have actual representation. You won’t.

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              My Democratic-run state

              • was first to allow gay marriage and is very accepting
              • is probably first in health care, including coverage for most, depending on your metrics
              • is consistently first or second for education
              • minimum wage $15/hr
              • in several quality of life metrics ranks right up there with best in the world countries

              And we recently pushed through the MBTA Communities Zoning law requiring towns with transit to allow “by right” high density housing near transit stations

    • Lodespawn@kbin.social
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      Pretty sure it’s the same in Australia. Our judges are also appointed by their legal peers who are also held to a pretty strict code of ethics. Breaches of these codes can result in being stripped of your right to practice law. These features combined limit this nonsense of partisan judges tthat the US seems to be afflicted with.

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        Supreme Court appointments in the US don’t even need to be lawyers or have any legal experience. There are absolutely zero qualifications for being an appointed judge beyond being appointed by the President and gaining the “Advice and Consent” of the Senate.

        That’s it.

        The President could nominate Chaz, the 17-year-old stoner with a peach fuzz goatee whose most daunting task in any given day is when someone orders a customized burrito at the Taco Bell drive thru and they have to make it in less than 2 minutes. If the Senate confirms him — based on current justicies, all he has to do is cry when asked questions — he’s a Supreme Court justice.

    • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      all the other judges have a code of ethic. scotus insists that it has a code of ethics too, but that it has to keep that code secret or people with business before the court will try to abuse that code of ethics in order to force unfavorable justices to recuse themselves. scotus also tells us that taking money, favors and gifts from people who have business before the court does not violate the secret code of ethics that they have. how a code of ethics that doesn’t cover bribery differs from a code of ethics that doesn’t exist at all has been left as an exercise to the reader.

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    2 years ago

    But how will they get all those free vacations?

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      What are the consequences if state or federal government decided not to follow a Supreme Court ruling? It’s up to the Attorney General to enforce the laws of the Justice Department and that position is a presidential appointee.

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        Congress can also impose a mandate on the executive branch if they got out of hand. The issue is SCotUS is clearly out of hand now, yet congress is doing nothing. The whole “checks and balances” system is idealistic and clearly flawed.

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          impose a mandate

          the law for us poors is “do it or men with guns will put you in a box”. what men with guns does congress have to force the president to do what scotus tell him to?

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            I was curious to see if this might play out had Biden invoked the 14th amendment to solve the recent debt-limit standoff. Had he done so, chances are it would have eventually gone to the Supreme Court to ‘rule’ whether they liked that or not. But had they ruled against it and the Biden Treasury Department just… kept paying our debt, what would the Supreme Court be able to do? Throw a fit?

  • mick@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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    Seriously. Why are they getting handouts when they can legally get rich on insider trading, like normal Congress members? (/s in case you think I’m serious)

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        Is that a textualist or originalist interpretation of the constitution?

        In other words…

        Are the Supreme Priests going to go by the strict definition of the words or the way they feel the founding fathers intended the words? Ahh who am I kidding?? They are just playing…

        "Who’s line is it anyway?: Supreme Edition

        The court where everything’s made up and the constitution don’t matter"

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    I’d like to see them held to an actual standard instead of what we let the other two branches get away with.

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    Real talk:

    What would be the actual consequences here? Because as far as I can tell, ethics bodies over the other branches are about as worthless as the bioethics division at Umbrella Labs.

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    2 years ago

    Correction Democratic Senators call for ethics code, Republican Senators say the branches should not monitor each other.

  • BeautifulMind ♾️@lemmy.world
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    It’s so exhausting when ethics are considered a partisan issue and the ones against ethics and oversight will not shut up accusing others of unethical behavior. Also, the ‘ethics codes’ congressmen and senators are supposed to abide by aren’t enforced in anything like a rigorous or consistent way.

    At the very least, congressmen, senators, and justices ought to be held to standards higher than the standards they’re responsible for holding others to. Unfortunately, holding them to those higher standards is a sort of power that would be instantly abused the moment anyone with an agenda and crap ethics has it, another ‘who will watch the watchmen?’ conundrum

    This shit is why we can’t have nice things apparently

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      I have an idea.

      When there is a legitimate ethics violation why don’t we get a referee and then get a random group of 12 people to decide if it was worth them being penalized?

      I know i’m just talkin crazy here but…

      TLDR; Clarence Thomas took bribes, the only way it would be more obvious would be if they gave him the money in a bag with $$$ printed on the outside. Throw his corrupt ass in jail.

    • Fonchote@lemmy.world
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      Sad situation, I don’t understand how do many people are OK with it, but they are. The GOP and still obtain a significant victory in the next election. We need to make sure to get out and vote.

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    It’s absolute insanity that members of the highest court in the land don’t have to abide by such pesky rules as “codes of ethics” or even have to worry about the appearance of impropriety. I’m guessing it’s another of those things where the Founding Fathers assumed that selfless politicians, working tirelessly in service of their countrymen, would come together for the good of the nation to impeach SOC judges if there was ever even a hint of something wrong happening.

    Meanwhile, in reality it’s just this BS club of unelected judges that get to basically make their own policy without any oversight. I get that somebody somewhere has to be a deciding factor on how some of these cases play out, but given the weight and responsibility that comes with the position, they really should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us.

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      because when you get right down to it anything they did would be themselves doing it and thus subject to themselves NOT doing it. so the founding documents cut to the chase – impeach the fuckers if they need it.

      (of course, as you hint, they didn’t appropriately plan for party capture)