• fox [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    Obviously Trump won’t be any better than Biden, but if Biden wants people to vote for him rather than sit home and vote for nobody, he should consider not doing genocide. You know, an elected politician trying to represent their voters? The thing democracies are nominally for?

    The choices as they stand right now are:

    1. Vote for genocide
    2. Vote for genocide
    3. Don’t vote

    This sucks.

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      8 months ago

      Oh, I fully acknowledge this sucks. Juuust as frustrated as anybody, friend.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        You’re the one arguing in favor of continuing to bail water out of a sinking ship like Dems have exploitatively argued for decades. This is your status quo, this is what lesser evils of the past have won you.

        Disowning the present circumstances requires disowning every single application of your horseshit political perspective for about 50 years. Under neoliberalism, there have only been two Dem strategies: Republican-lite (e.g. Clinton), or lie about not being Republican-lite (e.g. Obama), and you’ve won about half the time and gotten us your “lesser evil” administrations, “crisis” after “crisis”, and all those “lesser evils” have accomplished nothing but serving up new situations to keep choosing between Republican and Republican-lite.

        If you want anything other than a farcical good cop/bad cop routine carried on until the country implodes, your strategy has thoroughly failed, repeatedly, for decades.

        You have two options: live in madness and keep trying the same thing over and over again in denial of it having the same result, or accept that the “moderate” path is opposed to you ever getting an improvement, instead of the first step towards it.

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          This is your status quo, this is what lesser evils of the past have won you.

          Thank you, this bears repeating. Voting for the lesser evil has consequences. These are them. The consequences are here. Blaming those of us who won’t vote for genocide is like blaming the people who don’t give a homeless beggar $20. Sure, that money could help the guy get a meal today, but he’s in that situation due to decades of neoliberal policy. It’s ridiculous to heap the culpability for all of that on the skinflint today.

          If you want anything other than a farcical good cop/bad cop routine carried on until the country implodes, your strategy has thoroughly failed, repeatedly, for decades.

          The historical pattern is that pendulum swings and the party in the White House changes after each President. So, there’s a good chance of that implosion coming in 2028.

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      8 months ago

      Quick correction:

      1. Vote for genocide
      2. Vote for increased genocide, plus the autocratic downfall of the US
      3. Don’t vote

      Edit: nice kneejerk downvote. Should’ve known not to get actual discourse from a hexbear account

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        8 months ago
        1. Don’t vote and therefore help increase genocide and help provoke the autocratic downfall of the US

        FTFY

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        8 months ago

        Yeah it’s never worth engaging, they won’t ever argue in good faith. They’re paid to spread propaganda.

      • archomrade [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        Hexbears don’t have the ability to downvote, those are from other lemmy instances.

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          Really? Huh, TIL. I just assumed it was the person I responded to since it came soon after I posted, but I guess that was presumptuous of me.