Let’s welcome the new moderators of c/politics.

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    1 year ago

    The Charlottesville people are largely fascists

    They were all fascists, and everything else you said is, at best, so deeply ignorant that I don’t think I’ve got the time or mental energy to point out how dumb and dangerous this refusal to see what should be obvious to everyone is. I strongly encourage you to step down as a moderator of this community and strongly encourage anyone who approved your being made a mod to do the same.

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      1 year ago

      They were all fascists

      Every single one there? I do not think you could possibly know that.

      dumb and dangerous this refusal to see what should be obvious to everyone is.

      Ironically what I said in my mod application is:

      “I fully accept that people can and do hold opposing opinions to me, yet might be smarter, more informed, or more moral than me. I may still disagree with them but being wrong isn’t evil.”

      Do you think I(or anyone) could disagree with you on anything without you automatically assuming they are less informed, stupider, or evil?

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        1 year ago

        Every single one there? I do not think you could possibly know that.

        The counterprotesters weren’t. If you’re marching and nazis show up to march with you and you don’t drive them off or leave yourself, you’re ok marching with nazis. The term for someone who is ok marching with nazis is “a nazi.”

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          So the German Communist Party were Nazis?

          After the Nazi electoral breakthrough in the 1930 Reichstag election, the SPD proposed a renewed united front with the KPD against fascism but this was rejected.[25]

          In the early 1930s, the KPD cooperated with the Nazis in attacking the social democrats, and both sought to destroy the liberal democracy of the Weimar Republic.[26] They also followed an increasingly nationalist course, trying to appeal to nationalist-leaning workers.[4][27]

          In 1931, the party reported a membership of 200,000.[28]

          The KPD leadership initially first criticised but then supported the 1931 Prussian Landtag referendum, an unsuccessful attempt launched by the far-right Stahlhelm to bring down the social democrat state government of Prussia by means of a plebiscite; the KPD referred to the SA as “working people’s comrades” during this campaign.[29]

          In this period, while also opposed to the Nazis, the KPD regarded the Nazi Party as a less sophisticated and thus less dangerous fascist party than the SPD, and KPD leader Ernst Thälmann declared that “some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest [of social democrats]”.[30] In February 1932, Thälmann argued that “Hitler must come to power first, then the requirements for a revolutionary crisis [will] arrive more quickly”. In November 1932, the KPD and the Nazis worked together in the Berlin transport workers’ strike.

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            1 year ago

            Wow. Neat pro-nazi talking points. Do you think this is a good look for the moderation team?

            I’d say the German Communist Party didn’t know any better and learned the hard way what happens when you welcome nazis. It’s interesting how none of your examples are from after 1932. I wonder what could have happened in 1933 that caused the sudden cutoff.

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              1 year ago

              Neat pro-nazi talking points.

              How is that pro-nazi? My personal ideology is essentially in opposition to Nazi ideology in every possible matter.

              I’d say the German Communist Party didn’t know any better

              Not what I asked. You said marching with Nazis automatically makes you a Nazi, regardless of if they kill you later or not. So were they Nazis or not.

              It’s interesting how none of your examples are from after 1932.

              Interesting how you didn’t answer, were they Nazis?

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                My personal ideology is essentially in opposition to Nazi ideology in every possible matter.

                Essentially? Wow, you can’t even pretend to oppose nazis without wormy equivocation.

                Not what I asked. You said marching with Nazis automatically makes you a Nazi, regardless of if they kill you later or not. So were they Nazis or not.

                In this day and age it is. Certainly in the context of the unite the right nazi rally it is, which is what we were talking about. I can’t fault fools who didn’t know any better. Everyone knows they’re the baddies now. Everyone at that rally knew exactly what they were about.

                Interesting how you didn’t answer, were they Nazis?

                The nazis didn’t seem to think so, since they built Dachau to kill them. But yeah, have your stupid little gotcha. You’re so clever.

                headpats.

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                  Essentially? Wow, you can’t even pretend to oppose nazis without wormy equivocation.

                  Yeah because I think even Nazis would agree with me that random murder should be a crime or at least some people should have access to clean drinking water. I assume you agree with that too.

                  I can’t fault fools who didn’t know any better. Everyone knows they’re the baddies now. Everyone at that rally knew exactly what they were about.

                  I think you overestimate how many people are obsessed with internet politics.

                  The nazis didn’t seem to think so, since they built Dachau to kill them.

                  I didn’t ask if they thought so I asked if you did.

                  Also, stop being patronizing, it’s not funny it’s just rude.

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                    1 year ago

                    I think you overestimate how many people are obsessed with internet politics.

                    The nazis at the rally were chanting nazi slogans and carrying torches. They were not immediately removed from the rally. They were not removed at all. It was obvious to even the most casual observer that it was a nazi rally. Anyone marching in a nazi rally is a nazi. Even when Trump calls them “very fine people” and unconvincingly walks it back.

                    Now go ahead and pretend that fools who didn’t know any better in the 30s are equivalent to people in 2017 who should have known better but marched with nazis anyway. You seem to be under the impression that it’s a good look.