• slurpyslop@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    “liberal” is significantly less specific in its implications, both in terms of modern day parlance and historical roots, than “zionist”

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        6 months ago

        Did you ignore the modern parlance part? A zionist is an Israeli nationalist. There’s a bit more to it than “Israel should exist.”

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            6 months ago

            And when I say “nick fuentes is a nazi” do you understand what I’m saying, or do you point out that he’s not actually a member of the NSDAP?

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                6 months ago

                To be clear, you don’t agree that nick fuentes is a nazi?

                2 hours later edit: anyone else find it funny how people with terrible opinions never answer direct questions and prefer to argue semantics?

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            doubling down on the stance of not understanding linguistics isn’t the play you seem to think it is

            the wikipedia article on zionism is several thousand words long, and you seem to think it’s possible to accurately boil that down to a one or two sentence dictionary entry

            I’m sure Republicans have many definitions for a liberal.

            it’s more that they don’t have a definition at all

            they use it similarly to “woke”, in that its a nebulous word that takes on any given meaning that they want given the context

            if you tried to distill its myriad of uses into an actual definition you’d get something like “person i disagree with to the point of dislike”, at which point the dumb part becomes making an assertion as utterly vacuous as “i don’t like people i don’t like”

            it’s completely dissimilar

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                6 months ago

                you’re not avoiding excessive detail in a definition due to a limited character space, you’re saying that a word can literally only ever have the precise meaning ascribed to it by the dictionary

                those are two completely different things and it’s astonishing that you would even try to make an argument that bad after opening this discussion with “i’m sure you can do better than that”

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                    6 months ago

                    i’m not trying to justify my use of language, i’m explaining why you’re wrong, and you’re responding by gesturing vaguely towards the concept of a dictionary

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        There shouldn’t be a Jewish state though. It’s a different thing. I don’t think there should be a Christian state or a Muslim state either. Or a Mormon state or a Scientologist state.

        There were Jews living in Palestine before it was carved up and given to the zionists. Why did it need to be turned into a Jewish state to the exclusion of people who have always lived there? At one point they were planning to carve up Argentina and South america. Which still would have been wrong. Though perhaps slightly less insane than what they did.

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            Yeah. There should. It’s always been a bad idea. And historically part of the reason they were persecuted. Not that it justified it. Nor does it justify them doing it in return.

            So you’re saying we should stop resisting and just give the fascists the US as a Christian homeland? Help me understand.

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                And they are not treated equal. So you are saying that we should give America to the fascists? I mean after all if the Jewish homeland is 40% Muslim at other 60% is partially Christian as well. So less than 60% of the people in the Jewish homeland are Jewish. But it’s still their homeland somehow? Then Christians with 64% of American population should of course have rights to turn America into their locked down Homeland too.

                Look I see you post a lot and I generally agree with you. But this is a little too far off the reservation for this indian.

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                    No. But you all aren’t leaving and letting me and my relatives live on our land undisturbed. It’s kind of a double standard.

                    In all seriousness. An Injustice somewhere does not justify Injustice everywhere. People should be treated more equal if not equally entirely. That seems like a pretty decent deal right? You all get to live on our ancestral lands we all just have to treat each other equally. Easy and pretty sweet right?