Was reading an answer to the question about fresh Amazon tablet and saw this. They used up the question as a hook to promote their browser. Pretty sure I’m avoiding Brave from now on.

Q: Does the fire max 11 have YouTube app on it. A: I have installed Google Playstore , but I skip installing Youtube app . There is better option . Brave Browser in Playstore !! That thing has AWESOME popup Blocker and it’s own integrated Youtube Ads and other Nuisances blocker . My point ? You don’t need youtube on Fire max , You don’t need Google Maps , You don’t need Facebook App . Just Use Brave .

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      I’m honestly a bit surprised their comment doesn’t contain the user’s affiliate links. “Over-enthusiastic” users used to spam theirs everywhere.

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        It’s not even a comment, it’s an answer to an Q&A on amazon, I’m sure there are more efficient ways to advertise a browser.

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        I shill brave on iOS regularly as a way to get past ads on mobile and watch with background playback. But that’s more because of how much I hate ads than any loyalty to brave. I highly doubt they’re paying for the kind of low quality shilling this guy is doing on Amazon. If they are, they can start paying me as well!

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          For iOS there is the Orion Browser. Its a privacy based fork of Safari for iOS and macOS, with built in ad-block, anti-fingerprinting, and supports background and PiP youtube. I use it as my default browser on iOS and Mac.

          Its built on webkit, just like Firefox on iOS, but supports both Firefox and Chrome extensions. And their CEO isn’t a crypto shill or anti-lgbtq.

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              They are currently closed source like Brave for now but it’s a relatively new browser and still technically open beta (I’m on 0.99.124.4.1).

              They say they are working on going open source. However their Github seems to currently get infrequent updates.

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          if you’re interested in alternatives with adblockers:

          • adguard extension for safari, for general browsing
          • video lite app for youtube, or any other video playing website. It’s a browser disguised as video player, but it’s really well done, feels like I’m using the oficial youtube app
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            That was the point he was making. Who knows. I agree though sounds like some kid who just discovered an app he likes and is spamming it everywhere. Sadly most marketing is hard to discover.

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      All those wonderful people are all just passionate firefox users, and you could be one too! All have have to do is get firefox! Please get firefox, it’s great! You should totally get firefox!

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      It’s important to note that Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit organization, whereas Brave Software Inc. is a company that sells products. Mozilla get money from recurrent donations, while Brave gets more money the more users use their software and services, like any other company. Which means that only Brave has interest in hiring shills. And a fucking meme posted on a niche social network is different than a fake review, ffs.

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    I really don’t understand why people use and recommend brave. They’ve have had plenty of shady practices in the past and bundle crypto crap by default. If you want to block ads just install ublock origin on (preferably) any privacy respecting browser like firefox (or better yet librewolf), ungoogled-chromium etc

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      Firefox runs really poorly for twitch and youtube videos for me in linux; mainly in CPU. Brave will use maybe 10-20% of my cpu for a single twitch stream whereas firefox uses about 80%. I use firefox for all my browsing, but for videos it just doesn’t seem to work well… Perhaps a different chromium browser would be better as you say.

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        Sounds like your Firefox is not using hardware acceleration for displaying videos. It does support it, but whether it will be enabled on Linux depends on a bunch of factors (distro/packages installed, cpu/gpu vendor/drivers, some weird settings etc etc)

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      The situation on mobile is dire. Bromite and Ungoogled-Chromium are dead, and mobile Firefox is slow crap that Mozilla doesn’t give two fucks about. I’m grinding my teeth using IceRaven and Mulch, but I’m not surprised those with less patience would use an all-in-one solution.

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        Mobile firefox on ios has been way better than almost everything else, atleast compared to like brave and chrome etc

        Maybe its being neglected on android? Im on the latest version and ios 17 dev beta

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          The only thing I wish I had on Firefox is tab groups. That’s it. It’s totally fine otherwise.

          (Don’t suggest me an extension. I’ve tried them. They suck. This isn’t a deal breaker for me. I use Firefox.)

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            Huh

            Ive never really used tab groups so they arent really a problem for me, might try them out someday though

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          On iOS, FF is using Safari core so there shouldn’t be any speed difference, and maybe they can concentrate on UI stuff.

          Or maybe you’re not looking for stuff I want that used to be in FF but were removed - like bookmarks export/import. That’s just criminal that it was axed in favor of their fIrEFoX AcCunT

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            Yeah which is why I didn’t mention safari, just others like chrome where i could feel it at times, difference in Ui or something like that maybe? It was a long time ago though

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      Honestly? Firefox on android sucks and unless you’re getting a fork like Mull on f-droid, the default Firefox on on the Playstore is really bad for privacy too. Brave just covers all the bases on Android and there isn’t much to complain about.

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      Yeah I tried it on mobile and it peppered me with requests/pop-ups to get their paid services… Install didn’t last long

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      They just don’t know any better. And when you tell them about Brave’s history, they just don’t listen

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        It’s more that do far I haven’t seen anything wrong with the browser itself.

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        This is the first time I heard about this. Was using it in the past on iOS, but I’m now using an extension in safari to block ads. What exactly is wrong with Brave?

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          They were using crypto miners in Brave (now it’s just opt-out optional I think), altering search result’s, and also something about their CEO being a weirdo I think. And also all this dirty advertising and tactics. They’re just shady all around.

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            There was never a miner in Brave. Their legitimate crypto related features have always been optional. They did add referal links in some urls though

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              There you go, and that’s why nobody should believe the commenter you replied to without him providing sources. Shame 10 people already agreed with him.

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            They were using crypto miners in Brave

            Huh? They have a crypto service that you can easily opt out of.

            altering search result’s

            …they have their own search engine they built from scratch. So yeah.

            also something about their CEO being a weirdo I think

            I love weirdos

            And also all this dirty advertising and tactic

            This is an incredibly generic complaint

            Maybe people “don’t listen” because you’re full of crap.

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          There are controversies around Brave itself and also its CEO, Brendan Eich (also inventor of JavaScript and also former Mozilla CEO).

          • Brave was altering search results by adding crypto redirects to links. Source.
          • Eich was forced to resign from Mozilla CEO because he made donations against gay marriage. Also, he basically is a covid conspiracy theorist. Source

          You might not care about a company’s CEO behavior, as long as they do a good job. I usually do not. In this case, I can’t help but feel that the whole project is kinda shady.

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            Regarding the covid stuff, hasn’t he been proven right?

            Masks have been determined to be minimally effective against covid (barring N95 I believe) and Fauci has been proven to be dishonest as shown in the leaks surrounding gain of function research in Wuhan. It’s effectively been proven the U.S. knew about the research, was funding(?) the research and in essence is at least partially responsible for the outbreak under Fauci’s watch. They attempted to downplay the actual origins of Covid-19 due to this association.

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      This is not marketing. This is people trying to destroy Brave’s reputation. This kind of stuff isn’t even effective, so Brave wouldn’t do that

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    Gentle reminder that Brave’s CEO is a known bigot and the browser is just chrome with a few extensions and fresh coat of paint.

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    I mean, there are plenty of reasons not to use Brave but this poorly-written, obviously-not-a-paid-review doesn’t really rank up there.

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    I don’t know what marketing campaign you think is going to tell a normal non-tech literate user to install not only a third party app store which they’d have to sideload through a complicated process, but also do so in the reviews section for a random product instead of just paying the 1/10th of a cent it takes to run an ad somewhere relevant. This post is legitimately so poorly thought out it frustrates me. Go get yourself evaluated for anxiety if you feel this distrustful of the world, my word it’s insane.

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    Brave is a shit company, but I’d still take it over Google if those were the only two choices available. So yes even if it’s an ad… It’s not wrong.

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    Maybe, but there are LOT of weirdly aggressive Brave fanboys out there that would probably say shit like this without getting paid. Not sure how they convinced people that they were so great. Brave is a decent browser but it has a sketchy history, just like the people behind it. Would definitely recommend staying away.

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    Former brave fanboy here. This company is a fucking plague and they should be on trial for misleading their users.

    Absolute scam -severalbillion/10

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      Sure, I disagree with him regarding social issues, but how is questioning unscientific and inconsistent “health measures” and the proven liar who is their spokesperson right wing? To use the bird metaphor, is it flying upside down? Is that why things that are actually left wing (progressivism, skepticism, political accountability) called right wing and things that are actually right wing (authoritarianism, religious devotion to the state, feelings mattering more than reality) called left wing? Is it Opposite Day?

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          I’m trying to avoid such negativity in my life, becoming a new, better me and all that, so I’ll just say this and exit the conversation:

          One of the very first things Fauci did in the pandemic was lie about masks. Which part of that was the lie, though: the original statement or the follow-up “admitting to the noble lie”? Which one would have made him and his friends more money and better saved face?

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            Sure, he made a statement based on incomplete information, like scientists literally always do, as the information is never complete. Especially not when you can’t wait for results of multi-year testing because millions of people are dropping dead.