This brings the total under this administration to $167 Billion in relief for 4.75 million borrowers.

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    You could just ask me, I guess. Am I belittling genocide opposition? No. What I am opposed to is blaming the entire thing on Biden, as if 95% of the rest of the political establishment isn’t involved and wouldn’t have done the same things or worse. “Genocide Joe” is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard. People seem totally ready to throw this election to trump, who has made it clear he would be even worse about Palestine, over this single issue, which would fuck over the US in an almost incalculable way. And then, it sure is odd how people who consider themselves leftists or communists spend huge amounts of time and energy bashing Biden and Democrats and NEVER express any concerns about Republicans or Trump. It makes absolutely no sense given that Democratic administrations are much better on issues they claim to care about - clean energy, unions, environmental regulations, women’s rights, appointing reasonable people to courts, and so on.

    Biden hasn’t been selling weapons he knows will be used for genocide for the past several decades.

    The US just started supporting Israel with weapons and finances? Huh, I could have sworn that’s been going on for at least 50 years.

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      They want to be able to smugly say “we told you to listen to us!” While they deny that they’re trying to hold democrat ransom.

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      No. What I am opposed to is blaming the entire thing on Biden

      I blame most of it on Netanyahu. Biden shoudl stop enabling him.

      , as if 95% of the rest of the political establishment isn’t involved and wouldn’t have done the same things or worse.

      “Everyone else would do it” is not a justification for Biden’s support for genocide.

      “Genocide Joe” is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard.

      And you haven’t heard it from me. I don’t call him that.

      People seem totally ready to throw this election to trump,

      And any criticism of Biden is support for Trump. Griping about Biden enabling genocide on a small fledgling platform inhabited almost entirely by centrists who just want his critics to shut up isn’t going to throw anything.

      who has made it clear he would be even worse about Palestine, over this single issue, which would fuck over the US in an almost incalculable way.

      Which is why I’m voting for Biden.

      And then, it sure is odd how people who consider themselves leftists or communists spend huge amounts of time and energy bashing Biden and Democrats and NEVER express any concerns about Republicans or Trump.

      What is there about every last centrist’s second choice that needs expressing. They’re fascists. It’s why we’re all stuck voting for Biden. Democrats seeing this and using it as license to be second worst is disgusting behavior.

      This conspiracy nonsense from centrists that russians are hiding behind all dissent is just like Republicans screaming “SOROS!” at all sensory input. It’s not based in any actual logic. You should be fucking livid that Biden is enabling genocide, and I’m seeing precious little evidence that any of you are.

      The US just started supporting Israel with weapons and finances? Huh, I could have sworn that’s been going on for at least 50 years.

      Sounds like a justification for never, ever stopping. BuT nO OnE hErE sUpPoRtS gEnOcIdE.

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        So, you’ve intentionally or not missed the point that Biden does not make all the decisions for the US. He’s in a difficult position especially with Congress and Republicans overwhelmingly supporting Israel.

        And you haven’t heard it from me. I don’t call him that.

        That’s fine. I’m not only discussing you. I’m discussing “leftist bro” people who can’t stop talking shit about Biden constantly and don’t seem concerned at all about Republican plans for Trump and the country. If that’s you, then okay.

        And any criticism of Biden is support for Trump.

        Excessive, unfair and pointless criticism helps Trump, yes. Do Trump and Republicans deserve any crticism? Well, no way, I’ll just talk shit about Biden endlessly.

        Griping about Biden enabling genocide on a small fledgling platform inhabited almost entirely by centrists who just want his critics to shut up isn’t going to throw anything.

        So, it’s interesting how “so leftist bro” people come to places where people are likely to vote for Biden and try to erode his support. Guess who that would help?

        You should be fucking livid that Biden is enabling genocide

        How old are you? Israel has been doing this forever, with full US support. It’s been going on for decades before I was born. Were you livid when the French and British set up the whole thing in the 40s?

        Sounds like a justification for never, ever stopping.

        not in anyway whatsoever is that " justification for never, ever stopping". It’s pointing out that “OMG JOR BIDEN” is just a clueless thing to be fixating on. Again, as if Biden makes all the decisions for the entire country by himself. This was going on for decades before Biden was in power.

        BuT nO OnE hErE sUpPoRtS gEnOcIdE.

        That’s correct, nobody here support genocide. If you want to help Trump be in charge of Palestinian, Ukrainian, LGBT and central American genocides, keep it up.

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          How old are you? Israel has been doing this forever, with full US support. It’s been going on for decades before I was born.

          So, when do we stop? Has it ever even occurred to you that stopping is possible?

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            That would be great, i agree we should! But blaming it all on Biden and discouraging people from voting for him is not going to achieve that.

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              That would be great, i agree we should!

              But we’ve been doing it for so long, it must be right!

              The sunk cost fallacy is a garbage justification for continuing support for genocide. But there’s no good reason so you have to use garbage excuses.

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                That’s great that you know about concepts like Sunk Cost Fallacy, but not so great that you apply it to something which has absolutely nothing to do with that. Ok, see you in a Republican concentration camp soon! Nice work! You really stamped out GENERCIDE, good job. It was all Joe Biden all along.