It’s educate, AGITATE, organize

edit: putting this at the top so people understand the basis for this:

You may well ask: “Why direct action? Why sit ins, marches and so forth? Isn’t negotiation a better path?” You are quite right in calling for negotiation. Indeed, this is the very purpose of direct action. Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored. My citing the creation of tension as part of the work of the nonviolent resister may sound rather shocking. But I must confess that I am not afraid of the word “tension.” I have earnestly opposed violent tension, but there is a type of constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth. Just as Socrates felt that it was necessary to create a tension in the mind so that individuals could rise from the bondage of myths and half truths to the unfettered realm of creative analysis and objective appraisal, so must we see the need for nonviolent gadflies to create the kind of tension in society that will help men rise from the dark depths of prejudice and racism to the majestic heights of understanding and brotherhood.

Letter from Birmingham, MLK

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    Nothing particularly convincing to anyone paying attention.

    Okay, so they are doing what you want them too, you just still don’t like it enough to work to stop fascism.

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      I (quite loudly) disagree with what you say constitutes ‘working to stop fascism’. And I will continue voicing that disagreement loudly until that changes.

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        Yes, you quite loudly disagree with the idea that working to stop a fascist from getting into power is ‘working to stop fascism’. It very much highlights where your priorities are.

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          you quite loudly disagree with the idea that working to stop a fascist from getting into power is ‘working to stop fascism’

          Almost, I disagree that working to stop fascism entails supporting them while they commit atrocities abroad

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            What else will you not support the opposition to fascism over? What other matters do you regard as more important than opposing fascism?

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              What other matters do you regard as more important than opposing fascism?

              There is NO issue more important than opposing fascism, THAT’S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD BE OPPOSING FASCISM IN GAZA

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                There is NO issue more important than opposing fascism

                Except foreign affairs, it would seem.

                THAT’S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD BE OPPOSING FASCISM IN GAZA

                Damn, you want us to go to war with Hamas AND Israel? I thought we were done with nation-building.

                Or is what you mean “We should make a show of opposing fascism in Gaza”? In which case the only difference between your position and Biden’s is one of degrees.

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                  Damn, you want us to go to war with Hamas AND Israel? I thought we were done with nation-building.

                  We we certainly shouldn’t be supplying material support for an active genocide, that seems like a pretty obvious red flag to most people. Going to war ourselves is a stretch, but not obstructing an ICC arrest warrant and recognizing Palestinian statehood at the UN seem like other common-sense positions that fall well short of going to war, but what do I know about what it is you think?

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                    We we certainly shouldn’t be supplying material support for an active genocide, that seems like a pretty obvious red flag to most people.

                    So material support for an active genocide (a lot of qualifiers there) is your absolute line? If any presidential candidate crosses that line, you won’t work with them against literal fascists?

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                “I oppose fascism in Gaza by enabling more fascism in the United States!”