• Zatore@lemm.ee
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      TF2 is in a near unplayable state. Valve has neglected it and as a result it’s not hard for people to bypass the anti-cheat. This has resulted in bots overtaking the game. This has been a problem for years, but there have been some recent pushes to get Valve’s attention. First was #savetf2 which resulted in Valve tweeting that the “heard us” and had things planned. Well nothing happened and now we’re trying again. #fixtf2 is the newest push and has come with extra steps from the community. Many people, including myself, have switched our reviews of TF2 to negative to hopefully get Valve’s attention.

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        Valve is probably ignoring TF2 so that fans switch to deadlock which is tf2-overwatch-dota2 adjacent.

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          That seems malicious, never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence. Valve’s non-standard employee structure means nobody has to work on TF2. There are a lot of other fun things to work on at Valve, not some decades old game that doesn’t make a ton (relative) of money anymore. This is probably the biggest flaw of Valve.

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        I re-installed (I have about 500 hours total) and joined for a game for the first time in years (so I’m level 0, whatever that means; I guess that was added after I quit) and had a blast. Not sure if it’s only in the higher levels or because of region (I’m based in Japan). Only had time for one game on a quick work break, so not enough sample size .

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          play bot? I’m not quite sure what you mean, but ya all sorts of bots are flooding TF2. There are the normal aim-bots, but they also spam noise makers, voice chat, and text chat. They will also try and vote kick and normal player.

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            Maybe a “play bot” is like, when you run the practice mode the game pits you against bots instead of real players. I’ve seen cases of older games starting to spawn in bots like that so that the few remaining players don’t realize how empty all the servers are.

            Then there’s cheat bots which…I’m not sure why people do that?

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    What do they want Valve to do? It’s security vs convenience. If they added 2 factor authentication and removed F2P it would fix the issue while also pissing fans off.

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      When they went F2P it pissed off fans. Any change will piss off fans.

      There should be servers that only permit paid accounts and/or accounts over a certain age.

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      Honestly? I suspect that a big contributing factor to the bot problem is that there are some items that can be sold for real life money. A simple change to greatly reduce the bot problem is to eliminate this market and let the game be a game.

      But obviously Valve is not going to kill the golden goose. And honestly, I’m pretty sure a big chunk of the people playing the game will also get mad if Valve moves this way. After all, someone is buying all these dumb items. So nothing will be fixed here hahaha. Or probably they will just implement a temporal fix like yet another stupid DRM and call it a day.

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      What other options do they have? This is like complaining abut people striking, when it’s the only way for them to get a decent salary.

      Sometimes we need to make things difficult to get listened to in life.

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        What other options do they have?

        Review-bombing other games is valid when TF2 is broken?

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            Other valve games

            I’ve read that but the quality of Dota or Couter-Strike is unrelated to the quality of TF2. Review bombing those is stupid. Give TF2 a bad score. That’s fine because it’s about the quality of TF2. Give Dota and CS a bad score when those games suck.

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              If Valve is ignoring TF2, only way to get satisfaction is to review bomb the games Valve does care about.

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      Community in question has been eduring this for at least 4 years now. Id wager to say that taking matters into their own hands via activism and demanding change with whatever methods they can is a very good look actually.

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        Community in question has been eduring this for at least 4 years now.

        Where were the negative TF2 reviews in the last 4 years then? Give TF2 a bad score, don’t rate other games badly, just because “the community” was complacent until now.

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          Start small to practice civil disobedience so you have the backbone to do it when it matters also.

          Most people are very weak. They never go against the crowd even once.