Hot take incoming. Just some thoughts Iā€™ve been having recently as I experience Linux at work for several years now. To clarify, I mean Linux on the desktop as a consumer. As in, what our lord and savior Richard M. Stallman would call ā€œGNU/Linuxā€; pick your favorite distro here. Iā€™m leaving out Linux on the server, embedded Linux, and the billions of phones running Android that have Linux kernels, for which Linux there is a success story without rival. But Linux as a daily driver OS as a user/developer justā€¦sucks.

I have to use it because there is no other option for building Android and embedded Linux which I occasionally need to do

I like to use it because I can change stuff about it that I donā€™t like (can being the key word, here, usually Iā€™m too lazy or busy)

I want to use it because getting one over on ā€˜the manā€™ tickles my rebellious funny bone

Butā€¦little things here and there like snap sandboxing the browser and preventing a standard web feature from working bite me in the ass every now and again.

In this one obscure case, supposedly itā€™s been fixed, but Iā€™m on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, so who knows, maybe the fix didnā€™t get shipped out to this old dinosaur. Whatever it is, I donā€™t want to spend the time to dig into the innards to find out whatā€™s causing it this time, and just uninstalled chromium from snap. (I thought I installed it through apt, but it turns out apt install chromium-browser just installs the snap instead. I get it, I read the post, I understand why they moved it to snap, Iā€™m just annoyed to be one of the lucky 2 people that ran into WebSerial not working because of this or some related series of decisions.)

I usually use Brave, and I had already found out the hard way they ripped WebSerial out leading me to try Chromium

I sighed, installed Google Chrome with Googleā€™s apt repo, WebSerial works, I moved on. for some reason I canā€™t get it to talk to my custom ESP32 board anyway, but thatā€™s another problem I have to figure out some other time

Had I been using Windows or Mac at that particular time (or had I already been using Big Brother Googleā„¢ in the first place), I wouldnā€™t have run into this obstacle that cost me a few hours. And thatā€™s not the only time Iā€™ve ever encountered something that took some time to research and work around or learn to accept, donā€™t fight it, no tears, only free software now

Stuff like that reminds me why Linux on the desktop is not receiving more mainstream adoption. Itā€™s not just esoteric electronics-geeks-only features that I mean, either. Basic ordinary stuff like the screen sleeping when I donā€™t want it to, or not sleeping when I do want it to (thanks VirtualBox), or the lack of overall polish, like YES THANK YOU i know youā€™ve found the very same printer yet again as youā€™ve popped up a notification about it the last 500 times I woke up my computer. Iā€™m sure I could fix any particular thing given enough time to investigate, but man, I just want my stuff to work so I can do my actual work.

As the old adage goes, ā€œitā€™s only free if you donā€™t value your timeā€. Imagine someone less technically inclined trying to cope with an issue like thisā€¦theyā€™re probably fine if they had a friend set up their Linux box and all they need to do is browse Facebook and get their Gmail. But if they need anything more elaborate than that, theyā€™re stepping into a minefield of gotchas. Need to reflash your phone? Better hope your browser wasnā€™t installed via snap, or you gotta enable the raw-usb feature and hope your distro is new enough to have that fix. (when was the last time aunt sallie needed to reflash her phone?)

In a world where everybody can change things, everybodyā€™s got a different way to solve something, and some of them occasionally break stuff. Thereā€™s no unified vision, nor any single authority figure with some common sense saying ā€œwhy are we doing it like this, this sucks, fix itā€.

The thought occurred to me, macOS (my other main daily driver) is a much easier and more pleasant *nix to use because people get paid to work on the product, which is something I canā€™t say for Linux.

  • Desktop environment rich with window management features and surprisingly few glitches (I say this just as a notification popped up on my Linux box and wonā€™t go away; Iā€™m clicking on the x right now and itā€™s just clicking on something underneath the notificationā€¦sigh.)
  • One unified app store that has a good enoughĀ selection for most people
  • Developers can still hack things up
  • Sleeps when I shut the lid
  • Wakes up when I open the lid
  • Runs browsers with any and all features intact except Brave, because fsck you, we donā€™t trust our users enough to let you run WebSerial
  • A team is paid to make sure itā€™s accessible while blind, deaf, limited motion (and maybe that accessibility focus trickles down to benefit the average user too)

There are companies, RedHat, SUSE, Canonical, et al, who get paid in a sense, but my gross oversimplification of the matter is they donā€™t really get paid to work on Linux as a product, they get paid to tell businesses how to use Linux and other free stuff to work around issues navigating what is otherwise a proprietary-software-dominated world. ā€œBut all my Microsoft Officeā„¢ filesā€¦ā€ They work just fine in LibreOffice! Thatā€™ll be $2,500. ā€œOur team really likes Slackā€¦ā€ Have you tried [zulip/mattermost/insert other open source Slack clone flavor of the month]? Thanks, pay $1,000 at the next window.

That means Linux the product only gets the free fixes, for the most part. The fixes where some user crosses the Venn diagram between giving enough of a shit, being frustrated just enough by an issue, and having the ability and time to just go and fix it themselves and contribute the patch / PR / whatnot. Or the fixes that were sponsored by a company in the process of using the code for their product or serviceā€“if the company cares enough to upstream it (or doesnā€™t care one way or the other)

Maybe Iā€™m just suffering Ubuntu-itis and I can sort everything out by hopping over to Debian or arch btw. At least until the next issue I run into.

Does anybody else get tired of this, or is it just me?

I ainā€™t reading all that crap edition: Linux on the desktop sucks because nobody gets paid to fix it, they only get paid by businesses to tell them how to shoehorn Linux into their business world.

oh god i spent so much time whining about this that i could have spent coding

  • oo1@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    yeah and ubuntu is probly one of the ones that has more paid workers.
    ok i dont know that ; but canonical sure pays people,

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      1 year ago

      Yeah but it really looks for me like bad practice what they do there. They often hardcode packages.

      I switched to Arch Linux because

      1. Its Satisfying to understand a simple and dynamic system.
      2. Its Important to understand how your system works.

      At my work I am forced to use Ubuntu and develop a custom distroā€¦ its really weird how Ubuntu hardcodes solutions inside packages. I really donā€™t like it but my employer loves it for some reason. Especially because a lot is hardcoded I assume.

      But its definetly more dynamic than some other Systems like MacOS or Windows 10/11

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        yeah its nice to have a broad and flexible ability to maintain and improve - as much as possible - your own tools that you depend on.

        i think some people like to buy things from people with certificates, who can be sued when it doesnt work.

        maybe they are more comfortable arguing about contracts, rather than fix/ maintaining their own tools and get on with some work.