• 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    I don’t think downplaying our efforts is really helpful to our goals.

    I also don’t believe in the individual vs collective action blame dichotomy, because we should build pilitical infrastructure that fosters climate action and prevents emissions -> If we continue to put or keep lawmakers into power that empower the extreme rich, we disempower ourselves.

    The subsequent economic system doesn’t really matter, but the physical output matters.

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      5 months ago

      I don’t think downplaying our efforts is really helpful to our goals

      The math don’t lie. When you’re working on the scale of kilowatts and kilojoules, while your local hedge fund is operating on the scale of gigawatts and giga joules in the opposite direction, you’ve been outgunned by orders of magnitude.

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        5 months ago

        Indeed, I just don’t bother. That energy can and should be used in more meaningful, impactful ways like protests and policy changes. Which isn’t much but it’s the best we got.

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          5 months ago

          Quite a bit of modern progressive reform was won by being giant assholes towards people in power until they capitulated.

          I don’t think climate change will be resolved any differently.

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            5 months ago

            You absolutely should be giant assholes to those people doing the most damage.

            But this does not preclude you from doing something to decrease your own, likely outsized, damage yourself. It certainly does not excuse you from doing nothing.

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          Yeah, it’s why I continue torturing puppies daily for my own pleasure. Sure, it’s bad to do this, but have you seen how much pain a billionaire causes? The total suffering in the world will not meaningfully decrease if I stop torturing puppies, so why bother doing it?

          spoiler

          /s obviously

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          5 months ago

          This comment is exactly what I meant above. We need both policy changes and individual action, simply because most industrialised societies work that way - as mixed economies.

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        5 months ago

        Hedge funds consist of the labour of individuals in collectives (ie companies). Their products are only valuable because people keep their function and infrastructure intact (physically, legally).

        Scales cannot be compared that way. I don’t know the right term, but a better comparison might be between your efforts and the impact of a single ‘buyer’ of those hedge funds (or in the case of the extreme rich, the labour of a single worker that creates/created their power). Scales require similar spatial or material flow boundaries to be comparable.

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      5 months ago

      I also don’t believe in the individual vs collective action blame dichotomy

      Wtf