In many parts of the country, agricultural land is being used to house solar panels. The panels create renewable energy, and the land remains usable for graz...
Having to teach adults that enslaving and slaughtering animals isn’t a good thing gets very, very tiring after a very short time considering the immediate horror of the situation and the unending stubbornness of pissbaby carnists
Please stop with your odd content obsession. I’m only addressing your comment you shared with us. I have no interest in a protracted period of finding vegan solarpunk “content”. The issue is obvious and the solution is obvious and I put a lot of energy into the cause but on a different platform than this. There’s no pissing contest. I’m rightfully angry.
Ok sure but again, absolutely minuscule backroom topic compared to the enduring struggle for animal rights. I can comment about things I feel strongly about and I will. You’re just being quite strange to be honest. Lemmy has nothing to do with my own thoughts
Bruh, why are you being so negative? Don’t you have anything better to do than criticise other people’s speech? Why don’t you provide a better example instead of just complaining?
Not everyone who comes to solarpunk is coming to look at glorification of slavery. A lot of people would be turned away by crass and vulgar imagery such as this. I’ll be staying, to remind people of the fact that we do not need to tolerate such horrific content.
What world? Consensus reality? The model of the world invented by enlightenment scholars and exported across the world through the processes of colonisation and genocide? I am glad to be divorced from consensus reality. If you say that my beliefs divorce me from the world, then I praise your wisdom in understanding that the world is a belief, and I thank you for the compliment. I would be very ashamed to find myself a believer in the world.
Sure that guys comment there was odd but how is his first comment off at all? Animal enslavement and slaughter is horrific. Its unnecessary. It’s the most pointed brutal tip of humanity’s ego and destruction. I’ve seen slaughterhouse workers in my hometown in Ireland turn to every drug under the sun to deal with the PTSD from the industry. It destroys everything it touches by design. I hope in your lifetime you’ll see the world turn against it and join us
Okay, yes, I would like to address the “meat”, pun intended, of your reply.
You spent your entire reply complaining about how complaining is bad. If you don’t like complaining, stop complaining. You said to offer alternatives, fine. Show us a top level reply to this post that dismantles its carnist ideology and doesn’t complain. I’d like to see some productive behaviour out of you.
Just wanted to say thanks, I’ve read a lot of your posts and appreciated them.
My cards on the table, I’m absolutely against letting perfect be the enemy of good. I’m sick of people bickering over the right way to fix things rather than just doing something, even something small.
There’s a very twitteresque theme of endless nitpicking that I imagine is intended to showcase the speaker’s exceptional values that I have been glad to find mostly absent from this instance (it’s part of why I bounced hard off r/solarpunk back when. Nothing anyone did or shared was ever good enough or even a step in the right direction, nothing but utter perfection was sufficient for some of the members over there. There’s always room to strive for improvement but it’s exhausting reading about how nothing is ever good enough, so much so that it’s also a favorite tactic of conservatives trying to kill any conversation about change. It turned conversations about replanting land and solar initiatives as bleak and nihilist as the endless stream of bad news around climate change. They could always find something; any effort at improvement was secretly pointless or outright bad.
Hope is supposed to be what sets solarpunk apart.
I think it’s important to remember that this instance will be many people’s first exposure to the genre/movement, and that lots of people are coming to this space from different places. Trying to kick them out or shout them down because they haven’t reached the correct level of advanced veganism is going to cost us allies who might have gotten there eventually (or who might improve the world even if they don’t). I think people can do good while not doing everything perfectly and that at this point, we should encourage any progress we can get.
I wish them luck in finding or making a place where they won’t have to see this kind of thing. I think tailoring the instance to meet their demands (and they’re always only ever demands) won’t make the place more effective.
And if I’ve been unfair, well, I probably have. These complaints are bubbling up from far more interactions than with the folks in just this post, they just hit a very familiar theme.
It’s also worth pointing out that herding/grazing animals play an important role in the ecosystem and soil restoration. They can and should be incorporated in solarpunk whether or not they are consumed. Our best indicator of when humans arrived at a location is when the local megafauna died off.
It’s also kinda surprising to me that people are assuming that this would be for mean animals specifically. I didn’t watch the video but it seems to me there is not reason this couldnt be for non-animal-harming animal agriculture, things like dairy cows, sheep, llamas, goats, etc. Even horses for riding or smthn. As I understand it solarpunk is cool with that, especially of it’s living with the animals for mutual benefit.
With ya on this one. Really wish people would stop with their wierd insistence on putting solar panels in places should be eradicated. Don’t put solar panels on parking lots and cattle ranches. Get rid of parking lots and cattle ranches.
This is why I have to unsubscribe from “solarpunk” spaces. All the bleeding carnists not understanding the horror and damage of animal industry.
Bye!
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Having to teach adults that enslaving and slaughtering animals isn’t a good thing gets very, very tiring after a very short time considering the immediate horror of the situation and the unending stubbornness of pissbaby carnists
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Please stop with your odd content obsession. I’m only addressing your comment you shared with us. I have no interest in a protracted period of finding vegan solarpunk “content”. The issue is obvious and the solution is obvious and I put a lot of energy into the cause but on a different platform than this. There’s no pissing contest. I’m rightfully angry.
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Ok sure but again, absolutely minuscule backroom topic compared to the enduring struggle for animal rights. I can comment about things I feel strongly about and I will. You’re just being quite strange to be honest. Lemmy has nothing to do with my own thoughts
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Bruh, why are you being so negative? Don’t you have anything better to do than criticise other people’s speech? Why don’t you provide a better example instead of just complaining?
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Not everyone who comes to solarpunk is coming to look at glorification of slavery. A lot of people would be turned away by crass and vulgar imagery such as this. I’ll be staying, to remind people of the fact that we do not need to tolerate such horrific content.
How do you propose making any effective change to the world around you when you are so utterly divorced from it?
What world? Consensus reality? The model of the world invented by enlightenment scholars and exported across the world through the processes of colonisation and genocide? I am glad to be divorced from consensus reality. If you say that my beliefs divorce me from the world, then I praise your wisdom in understanding that the world is a belief, and I thank you for the compliment. I would be very ashamed to find myself a believer in the world.
That’s a yikes from me, dawg. Good luck in your journey to not being this type of person.
Sure that guys comment there was odd but how is his first comment off at all? Animal enslavement and slaughter is horrific. Its unnecessary. It’s the most pointed brutal tip of humanity’s ego and destruction. I’ve seen slaughterhouse workers in my hometown in Ireland turn to every drug under the sun to deal with the PTSD from the industry. It destroys everything it touches by design. I hope in your lifetime you’ll see the world turn against it and join us
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Bold move using a misogynist slur on Solarpunk
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Okay, yes, I would like to address the “meat”, pun intended, of your reply.
You spent your entire reply complaining about how complaining is bad. If you don’t like complaining, stop complaining. You said to offer alternatives, fine. Show us a top level reply to this post that dismantles its carnist ideology and doesn’t complain. I’d like to see some productive behaviour out of you.
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Just wanted to say thanks, I’ve read a lot of your posts and appreciated them.
My cards on the table, I’m absolutely against letting perfect be the enemy of good. I’m sick of people bickering over the right way to fix things rather than just doing something, even something small.
There’s a very twitteresque theme of endless nitpicking that I imagine is intended to showcase the speaker’s exceptional values that I have been glad to find mostly absent from this instance (it’s part of why I bounced hard off r/solarpunk back when. Nothing anyone did or shared was ever good enough or even a step in the right direction, nothing but utter perfection was sufficient for some of the members over there. There’s always room to strive for improvement but it’s exhausting reading about how nothing is ever good enough, so much so that it’s also a favorite tactic of conservatives trying to kill any conversation about change. It turned conversations about replanting land and solar initiatives as bleak and nihilist as the endless stream of bad news around climate change. They could always find something; any effort at improvement was secretly pointless or outright bad.
Hope is supposed to be what sets solarpunk apart.
I think it’s important to remember that this instance will be many people’s first exposure to the genre/movement, and that lots of people are coming to this space from different places. Trying to kick them out or shout them down because they haven’t reached the correct level of advanced veganism is going to cost us allies who might have gotten there eventually (or who might improve the world even if they don’t). I think people can do good while not doing everything perfectly and that at this point, we should encourage any progress we can get.
I wish them luck in finding or making a place where they won’t have to see this kind of thing. I think tailoring the instance to meet their demands (and they’re always only ever demands) won’t make the place more effective.
And if I’ve been unfair, well, I probably have. These complaints are bubbling up from far more interactions than with the folks in just this post, they just hit a very familiar theme.
Just a quick note: “Sam BOT” is a Reddit repost bot that mirrors highly upvoted external links from the /r/solarpunk subreddit.
Wait. Is this a thing? Solarpunk is pro animal agriculture and meat? I’m naive to the movement/philosophy/genre, but still I’d find that surprising.
As for the video, it’s about farming practices today adopting solar. Pretty hard to avoid the reality of animal agriculture in that context.
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It’s also worth pointing out that herding/grazing animals play an important role in the ecosystem and soil restoration. They can and should be incorporated in solarpunk whether or not they are consumed. Our best indicator of when humans arrived at a location is when the local megafauna died off.
It’s also kinda surprising to me that people are assuming that this would be for mean animals specifically. I didn’t watch the video but it seems to me there is not reason this couldnt be for non-animal-harming animal agriculture, things like dairy cows, sheep, llamas, goats, etc. Even horses for riding or smthn. As I understand it solarpunk is cool with that, especially of it’s living with the animals for mutual benefit.
Considering SolarPunk is high tech, it’d be lab grown artificial meat and robotic agriculture if anything.
Solarpunk isn’t carnist. And this article isn’t solarpunk.
Bye! Don’t forget to close the door on your way out.
With ya on this one. Really wish people would stop with their wierd insistence on putting solar panels in places should be eradicated. Don’t put solar panels on parking lots and cattle ranches. Get rid of parking lots and cattle ranches.