• Oka@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    291
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    Red is complimentary to cyan.

    If the cyan were switched with yellow, the can would appear blue.

    Also, it’s not our brains creating the red, it’s our eyes. They get exhausted of seeing the cyan and replace it with red.

  • Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    140
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    It’s not marketing, just colour theory. The same idea has been used by painters for ages.

    • srecko@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      4 months ago

      It is when you use cova cola instead of, lolipop, santa, flag, flower or some other red object.

        • jballs@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          17
          ·
          4 months ago

          That’s so weird. You can stare at a pixel and go “yep that’s red”. Zoom in, still red. Zoom more, BOOM IT’S BLACK!

          • Kiosade@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            10
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            The “red” parts are white, but yeah it’s interesting

            • jballs@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              4 months ago

              I am confident that is not correct, but every time I zoom in to test it, my brain explodes and I can’t tell.

              • idiomaddict@feddit.de
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                4 months ago

                I’m also lost. Because logically it should be the white, but I see a red and white striped midsection of the train and a red and white flecked can, so I think it must be coming from the black pixels.

        • blarth@thelemmy.club
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          Why is my brain making the train stripes red? I don’t know what color they normally are, which I assumed was the mechanism behind the coke can illusion.

          • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            10
            ·
            4 months ago

            Because our brains interpret colours and shading relative to their surroundings. That specific blue is on the opposite side of the colour wheel from red, so that relative lack of blue can be interpreted by our brains as red.

            Remember that white is all colours present, so white next to white will have more red than white next to blue.

            You’d get a similar effect if you stare at a bright blue version of the can for a while and then look at a blank white page or close your eyes. The after image isn’t the same colour as the thing you were staring at, it’s the inverse of that colour.

            • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              4 months ago

              No judgment for using the tool you used. I just always feel a need to say fuck Adobe lol. Recently got our production team fully in resolve, but unfortunately there is no suitable replacement for adobe audio enhance tool yet. Hoping resolve’s voice isolation tool can eventually supplant it.

            • lad@programming.dev
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              4 months ago

              I installed GIMP on my Android phone for changing aspect ratio of photos, but used it for hue, too

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          4 months ago

          Jokes on you I zoomed in and out on the original and now the can appears white no matter what.

      • psud@aussie.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        This site has no protection against marketing aside from moderator action (and in this case OP is a mod). I’m not certain OP chose a coke can for that image or whether this was simply the first version of that illusion that OP has seen

        I wonder if prolific posters are approached by advertisers. Is Lemmy big enough for them to bother?

  • smeg@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    86
    ·
    4 months ago

    Oh weird, I assume this is just because the white is relatively red compared to the cyan, right? As in if you took any image and coloured it in the same way then it would also look red.

    • Theblonde@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      47
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      Yeah, there seems to be a lot more going on here than just marketing. If you mask the logo, the red still works. I believe it has to do with the combinations of white/black, white/cyan, black/cyan and the relative size of the blocks to produce a red hue through complimentary color persistence or whatever it’s called.

  • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    45
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    4 months ago

    Nonsense. My phone screen uses red, green, and blue to make up each pixel. The white pixels have their red component all the way at full brightness. Therefore there is a lot of red in the picture.

    You could also see this by opening up the image and looking at the red channel which would not be completely black.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      Texts on computers is made this way, so use a magnifying glass on black white text in a word document (for example) and you’ll see lots of colors. zoom in using the computer and you will still just see black/white.

      • lad@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 months ago

        So that’s why I can’t print greyscale documents when my yellow ink is too low!

        • Valmond@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          Ha ha nah thats because all (color) printers also print a unique pattern with yellow, so that anything from your printer can be traced back to it

          Can plz anyone find a link (am at home with wrecked right arm)?

  • HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    4 months ago

    Jokes on you, I’m moderately red green colorblind so I wouldn’t realize it if there was red present

      • RunawayFixer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 months ago

        I’m red green colorblind as well. I just see the background as white or a very light shade of grey. Someone else has made a post with a yellow can and in that one I see the background as yellow (which is basically the same as green to me, I have very little r in my rgb), especially the right side of the can.

  • widw@ani.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    4 months ago

    I think there’s something more going on here than just “marketing”. Because if you look at the tiny thumbnail in the OP it’s very clearly red, and you can even load that thumbnail into an image editor and zoom in to see slightly reddish pixels.

    So something happens when scaling this image that actually results in a red hue, and I don’t think my computers image scaling algorithms are also falling for “marketing”. I would guess it’s actually some kind of sub-pixel trick that makes it seem like there’s colors there which aren’t, and that’s why the image scaling algorithms also reveal the same colors you see.

  • Pulptastic
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    4 months ago

    Your mind compensates for the teal which makes the white look red.

  • underwire212@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    4 months ago

    Is this because our brains have been programmed to see Coca Cola can as red? Or does it have something to do with the way the black and white boxes are organized? (I.e. if it were a sprite can, it would still be red)

    • flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      4 months ago

      I think it’s a bit of both. The light blue color used is so called “complement color”, meaning it’s exactly the opposite on the color wheel to the Coca Cola red. Black and white pattern suggests to our brain to play with contrast. And of course we all know Coca Cola from all the marketing.

      Btw, After staring at it for a while I can kinda switch between red and white at will. Anyone else?

      • tiramichu@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        Interesting :) And yes, for me it also became easy to switch once I was aware of the truth of what I was looking at.

        If you look directly at the can you can see it as white, but if you look elsewhere and the can is only in your peripheral vision it seems to always be interpreted as red.

      • snooggums
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        4 months ago

        At the size it is on my phone screen it looks very red. Zooming in makes it look like the red switches to white.

      • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        Btw, After staring at it for a while I can kinda switch between red and white at will. Anyone else?

        No, that doesn’t seem to work for me, but after messing with zooming in, I can absolutely see it’s white if I’m all the way zoomed in on the black and white pixels in the can, and then as I slowly zoom out, there’s a specific moment when there’s enough of the surrounding blue that the can suddenly turns red.

        The can remains black and white in my perception as long as I’m sufficiently zoomed in on it without the background. It’s a pretty neat effect.

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      4 months ago

      It’s effectively your brain doing automatic white balance, it sees everything being tinted cyan so it just sorta subtracts cyan from the area, which results in white being reddish

      you can do this physically (by tiring out the colour-sensing cells in your eyes) if you stare at a colour for about 30 seconds then quickly look at a white surface, you should see the inverse of the first colour.

      • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 months ago

        How come this comment isn’t clickable in the app, and you have to open a browser to see it?

        • DevopsPalmer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          4 months ago

          Depends on the Lemmy app you use and your phone preferences for app opening certain links in different apps ( e.g. PayPal specific links may open in the PayPal app)

          • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            Thanks, I’m in voyager on Android. In the app settings, I can choose to open the link either “with default browser” or “in app”.

            Even if it is set to “in app”, the app renders a browser window instead of just taking me to that comment in the thread.

            Weird.

            • aeharding@vger.social
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              4 months ago

              Try restarting your app. That can happen if an API request fails (or if you Lemmy instance isn’t federated with the target instance)

              • DevopsPalmer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                4 months ago

                Ah this is a good point too, unfederated links could do it since the app wouldn’t know how to open it, I use sync and links usually work but occasionally will open in the browser.

    • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      4 months ago

      The cyan is the one playing the trick. I can see the black and white nature without zooming when focusing on the logo or something. Sometimes it randomly changes from b/w to red

    • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      4 months ago

      I have myopia so if I place the phone far from my face I can’t see that it is even a can… I still see a little bit of a red area there.

      • xthexder@l.sw0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        I think what we actually need is someone to take a picture of their screen with a microscope while the image is zoomed out.

        Based on some comments I’ve seen, it seems likely this is just an artifact of how the red/green/blue pixel layouts work when drawing the edges of white things.

        Edit: I don’t have something to check the actual display pixels, but I realized I could just rotate the image and see if the colors change, which they don’t. So this definitely seems like more of a white balance effect, similar to that old Gold/Blue Dress meme.

        • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          You can use a color picker*, and unlike the gold/blue dress meme we are all looking at the same image and don’t have to determine one singular source vs. shared ones that have changed due to screenshotting/compressing/people just messing with folks

          • xthexder@l.sw0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            4 months ago

            You can’t use a color picker see color fringing due to subpixel rendering. (There’s tons of info about this for font rendering). Your display doesn’t map pixels 1-to-1 in most cases. But like I said in my edit, I’m fairly sure that part is irrelevant here.

            The blue/gold dress was not related to screenshotting and compression. People were arguing about the color even when looking at the exact same image. It all depends on which color temperature the dress was lit with. Noone can know for sure, and your brain just picks one (maybe depending on the room you’re in).

            It’s the same sort of deal as those rotating optical illusions. It’s possible to see it both ways, but your brain usually picks one and it’s hard to switch.

            • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              4 months ago

              Screenshotting, compression, people screwing with people, different monitors, different phones, etc. all contributed to the confusion ultimately. It’s not accurate to say we were all looking at the same image with the dress. But yet those visual/mental phenomenons are also real.

              • xthexder@l.sw0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                4 months ago

                I wasn’t saying everyone was looking at the same image. I’m saying the optical illusion still works when using a single image.

      • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        Color dropper shows there is full red and blue/green are pulled back. It’s slight, but it’s there. Didn’t say it did much but clearly it was enough for me to notice lol

  • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    When its small thumbnail I can see it but when I look at the full size image I appear to be able to turn the effect off at will.

  • ladel@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    4 months ago

    If you zoom in to see that it’s black and white, and then zoom back out again, it stays black and white. But if you look away for a bit to forget, maybe change the angle you’re looking at it, it turns red again.

    • snooggums
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      4 months ago

      For me zooming out changes it back to red.

    • xionzui@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      4 months ago

      I think it probably depends a bit on the color persistence effect. Like when you stare at something then look away, you see the opposite color. This effect probably requires the parts of your eyes that were looking at cyan to move over the white area and create red. So if you look at it without moving your eyes, it doesn’t work