The courts you imagine to exist for trying these folks… Where can I find them?
The Hague. Granted, they won’t put them on trial because the ICC exists to legitimize, not undermine, the western imperial project, but that’s what they’re supposed to be doing on paper.
As updated, your comment seems to be arguing that there is no way to deliver justice to some people regardless of how much they may deserve it, which leads to the conclusion that our justice system is arbitrary in whom it choose to punish. So, given that, why should we care if Trump is a felon?
I think that some crimes won’t ever see justice. This world is not fair. Pretending it ever will be, or was, is a fairy tale.
I’m not trying to argue.
I’d say that there is such a thing as a jurisdiction.
Actions committed inside the range of a prosecutor’s jurisdiction are eligible for prosecution by that party.
The argument is war crimes vs a felon.
Why should we care that Trump is a felon?
If it was for a series of DUIs, I’d say I wouldn’t care.
The felonies are for election interference in a state that had jurisdiction. Election interference in a race for the same job he’s shooting for again.
The felon is making promises to abuse the military industrial complex to a level that makes war crimes committed so far seem bashful.
If we were to compare the war crimes of the two candidates we still come up in favor of Biden.
I don’t have the time to list the atrocities committed by our war machine(s).
Trump was arguably on the side of fascists and has come out in praise of dictators.
Trump has said that NATO would be dismantled under his care if they didn’t pay up, like some sort of mob collection scheme.
Trump has said that Israel should step up their genocide.
Trump seriously mismanaged every military operation that he was involved in. For example: destroying lives and completely upending free and fair rule of law in Afghanistan bungling a withdrawal that left the Islamic religious terrorists in control
There isn’t a court to prosecute our president(s) for any defensive or offensive actions taken. There absolutely should be. Good luck getting any non-compliant nuclear powers to submit.
This world is not fair. Pretending it ever will be, or was, is a fairy tale.
Nobody here is doing that.
I’m not trying to argue.
Then what are you doing?
I’d say that there is such a thing as a jurisdiction. Actions committed inside the range of a prosecutor’s jurisdiction are eligible for prosecution by that party.
Stating the obvious.
The felonies are for election interference in a state that had jurisdiction. Election interference in a race for the same job he’s shooting for again.
Election interference by improperly disclosing paying hush money to a porn star about an affair that none of his supporters cared about once the news broke. Not even that he paid the money, that he didn’t fill out the correct forms. Out of all the things he did, this is what the legal system felt it could prosecute him for. Does that not bother you?
The felon is making promises to abuse the military industrial complex to a level that makes war crimes committed so far seem bashful.
We know he’s awful - the argument is why some folks are talking way more about the felony convictions than the war crimes.
Trump was arguably on the side of fascists and has come out in praise of dictators.
And yet he wasn’t punished for that, it was for the porn start hush money. Really makes you think.
Trump has said that NATO would be dismantled under his care
Would have been a good thing.
like some sort of mob collection scheme.
Wait 'till you see NATO.
Trump has said that Israel should step up their genocide.
Again, not something he’d be punished for if he did. Ex 1: Joe Biden, currently aiding Israel in stepping up their genocide.
For example: destroying lives and completely upending free and fair rule of law in Afghanistan bungling a withdrawal that left the Islamic religious terrorists in control
The withdrawal was negotiated under Trump but executed under Biden so I don’t know if you can blame him for bungling the withdrawal. Also, lmao to the idea that Afghanistan was under free and fair rule prior to the withdrawal. That which left the Islamic religious terrorists in control was, in fact, the 21-year-long bungled invasion, which you can’t really hang on Trump. Again, not something he’d ever be prosecuted for anyway.
There isn’t a court to prosecute our president(s) for any defensive or offensive actions taken. There absolutely should be. Good luck getting any non-compliant nuclear powers to submit.
The Hague. Granted, they won’t put them on trial because the ICC exists to legitimize, not undermine, the western imperial project, but that’s what they’re supposed to be doing on paper.
Sorry updated before I saw the reply.
As updated, your comment seems to be arguing that there is no way to deliver justice to some people regardless of how much they may deserve it, which leads to the conclusion that our justice system is arbitrary in whom it choose to punish. So, given that, why should we care if Trump is a felon?
I think that some crimes won’t ever see justice. This world is not fair. Pretending it ever will be, or was, is a fairy tale.
I’m not trying to argue.
I’d say that there is such a thing as a jurisdiction.
Actions committed inside the range of a prosecutor’s jurisdiction are eligible for prosecution by that party.
The argument is war crimes vs a felon.
Why should we care that Trump is a felon? If it was for a series of DUIs, I’d say I wouldn’t care.
The felonies are for election interference in a state that had jurisdiction. Election interference in a race for the same job he’s shooting for again.
The felon is making promises to abuse the military industrial complex to a level that makes war crimes committed so far seem bashful.
If we were to compare the war crimes of the two candidates we still come up in favor of Biden. I don’t have the time to list the atrocities committed by our war machine(s).
Trump was arguably on the side of fascists and has come out in praise of dictators. Trump has said that NATO would be dismantled under his care if they didn’t pay up, like some sort of mob collection scheme. Trump has said that Israel should step up their genocide. Trump seriously mismanaged every military operation that he was involved in. For example: destroying lives and completely upending free and fair rule of law in Afghanistan bungling a withdrawal that left the Islamic religious terrorists in control
There isn’t a court to prosecute our president(s) for any defensive or offensive actions taken. There absolutely should be. Good luck getting any non-compliant nuclear powers to submit.
Yap yap yap
Nobody here is doing that.
Then what are you doing?
Stating the obvious.
Election interference by improperly disclosing paying hush money to a porn star about an affair that none of his supporters cared about once the news broke. Not even that he paid the money, that he didn’t fill out the correct forms. Out of all the things he did, this is what the legal system felt it could prosecute him for. Does that not bother you?
We know he’s awful - the argument is why some folks are talking way more about the felony convictions than the war crimes.
And yet he wasn’t punished for that, it was for the porn start hush money. Really makes you think.
Would have been a good thing.
Wait 'till you see NATO.
Again, not something he’d be punished for if he did. Ex 1: Joe Biden, currently aiding Israel in stepping up their genocide.
The withdrawal was negotiated under Trump but executed under Biden so I don’t know if you can blame him for bungling the withdrawal. Also, lmao to the idea that Afghanistan was under free and fair rule prior to the withdrawal. That which left the Islamic religious terrorists in control was, in fact, the 21-year-long bungled invasion, which you can’t really hang on Trump. Again, not something he’d ever be prosecuted for anyway.
What Egon said.