The courts you imagine to exist for trying these folks… Where can I find them?
Take your pick. There’s the Hague, which is internationally recognized as a place to try war criminals. Or there could be a tribunal in Nuremberg since that’s where they hanged (a woefully paltry number of) high-ranking Nazis after WWII. Or those war criminals could be handed over to People’s Courts comprised of the families that survived having their loved ones murdered. Send Bush to Iraq, send Biden to Palestine, send Clinton to Libya.
The country decided that the president is immune from prosecution.
A system which enshrines in its legal structures such morally reprehensible positions is completely illegitimate. We don’t have to obey, nor should we.
As for your last question, consider it a wish-list. But if anyone in government actually had a conscience they would be demanding this too or seeking to change the laws to get the ball rolling. Gotta prosecute and punish the war criminals before they die of old age and escape to a Hell that will be far kinder on them than they deserve.
The list of folks guilty of war crimes is myriad and not limited to the presidents.
Not trying to nitpick, but… Agree Bush should be dragged along with Saudi Arabian parties responsible through Iraq & Afghanistan.
Our 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, etc Oil controlling regime swapping political systems are responsible for so much turmoil in Libya, Afghanistan, and other parts of the middle east - it’s reductive to try and blame a single president or country for this insanity.
I don’t believe you could or should blame Biden singlehandedly for Palestine.
I feel like they have all of the Zionists, British imperialists, and American imperialists and political parties to blame for the last 75+ years to blame in that.
I like the idea of acknowledging this is a wish list.
I don’t believe there to be anywhere that will punish or reward them. I feel like that’s another fairy tale.
The list of folks guilty of war crimes is myriad and not limited to the presidents.
Yes.
I don’t believe you could or should blame Biden singlehandedly for Palestine.
Yes.
Neither of those lessen the guilt that the Presidents bear, they simply expand the roster of people to try for abetting war crimes. When it comes to punishment, it’s fine to start at the top and work down the hierarchies until someone feels like it’s getting to be too much. Part of the point is revenge. Part of the point is to set an example. Clearly the Nuremberg trials didn’t go far enough because the “Allies” didn’t learn from it.
I like the idea of acknowledging this is a wish list. I don’t believe there to be anywhere that will punish or reward them. I feel like that’s another fairy tale.
I argue for what’s moral whether or not anyone else will listen. The realization that nobody who can try these war criminals will try them is another way to help people learn that we live in a fundamentally evil system that must be destroyed.
Take your pick. There’s the Hague, which is internationally recognized as a place to try war criminals. Or there could be a tribunal in Nuremberg since that’s where they hanged (a woefully paltry number of) high-ranking Nazis after WWII. Or those war criminals could be handed over to People’s Courts comprised of the families that survived having their loved ones murdered. Send Bush to Iraq, send Biden to Palestine, send Clinton to Libya.
As for your last question, consider it a wish-list. But if anyone in government actually had a conscience they would be demanding this too or seeking to change the laws to get the ball rolling. Gotta prosecute and punish the war criminals before they die of old age and escape to a Hell that will be far kinder on them than they deserve.
The list of folks guilty of war crimes is myriad and not limited to the presidents. Not trying to nitpick, but… Agree Bush should be dragged along with Saudi Arabian parties responsible through Iraq & Afghanistan. Our 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, etc Oil controlling regime swapping political systems are responsible for so much turmoil in Libya, Afghanistan, and other parts of the middle east - it’s reductive to try and blame a single president or country for this insanity.
I don’t believe you could or should blame Biden singlehandedly for Palestine.
I feel like they have all of the Zionists, British imperialists, and American imperialists and political parties to blame for the last 75+ years to blame in that.
I like the idea of acknowledging this is a wish list. I don’t believe there to be anywhere that will punish or reward them. I feel like that’s another fairy tale.
are hitler and eichmann more culpable for the Holocaust than the average nazi officer?
Neither of those lessen the guilt that the Presidents bear, they simply expand the roster of people to try for abetting war crimes. When it comes to punishment, it’s fine to start at the top and work down the hierarchies until someone feels like it’s getting to be too much. Part of the point is revenge. Part of the point is to set an example. Clearly the Nuremberg trials didn’t go far enough because the “Allies” didn’t learn from it.
I argue for what’s moral whether or not anyone else will listen. The realization that nobody who can try these war criminals will try them is another way to help people learn that we live in a fundamentally evil system that must be destroyed.