• Substance_P@lemmy.world
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    he lost me at this quote - “I’ll feel, as long as I gave it my all, and I did the goodest job as I know I can do, that’s what this is about,”

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      If it’s a good enough attitude for kindergartners’ soccer games, it’s a good enough attitude for fighting fascism.

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        “You sound like you’re 14” - an actual quote from a MAGA liberal I just read on another thread

        Really weird how everything liberals accuse leftists of is a projection.

        Really weird how the difference between fascists and liberals grows thinner and thinner by the day.

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    “Look, people don’t want him to run for president, but he can win despite that.”

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        And more full of people who lost miserably against some odds, and lost exactly as expected. Biden’s ego and denial (probably due to some close advisors) is on the verge of pulling an RBG right now, but it’s going to cost much more than Roe this time.

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        Like… Trump. The guy with no political experience or cohesive message who seemed to do it just cause he could. We kept thinking the next big scandal was what would end his campaign but then he won and somehow had even more scandals in office. No ones arguing unconventional people can’t win. But do you want a leader you want to support or one you don’t. Cause right now the dividing line is we don’t want trump, not we want Biden and that makes him a liability.

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    He only got the job because democratic party leadership decided to coalesce around him in 2020.

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        There were lots of good choices in 2020. Sanders was probably the most well-liked and respected, but there was Buttigieg who came out with the very first set of delegates in Indiana. Honestly, I thought Biden was the second worst candidate running for President during the primary, about a million miles ahead of fucking Bloomberg, but just when it looked like it was over for Joe, a miracle saved his entire campaign and rocketed him into the nomination.

        We need another miracle like that. Without it, I don’t see a path to winning again. The fence-sitters are going to plunge us back into a second Trump term and an inevitable fascist dictatorship.

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          Not miraculous. Almost everyone dropped out and endorsed Biden, at the same time, just before Super Tuesday. It was coordinated to help him, after he just won big in SC. Warren stayed in to “help” divide prog vote. That, and COVID, is how we ended up with Biden.

          It is ironic that some of these same people are now working behind the scenes again, only to replace him. I’m surprised and happy that Biden listened to Bernie and progs, and had a decent presidency (almost much more, killed by Manchin and Sinema). But swing state polls have shifted, and Biden seems incapable of effectively communicating necessary info (basic politics). I can’t imagine the consequences in 2028 if he eeks this one out but continues the decline.

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    If he leaves the race now he will leave office with a positive legacy as an effective one-term president who saved the country from chaos and authoritarians in its time of need. He’s got a lot accomplished over the last 3.5 years and he’s been a calming and rational influence.

    If he stays in the race he will permanently tarnish his legacy, invariably lose the race (because the cast majority of voters have now lost confidence in his mental health), and usher in another spell of strident, dangerous ideology.

    I thought the whole reason he chose a younger, more middle of the road VP was to lay the ground work for her ascension. (If he didn’t think Harris was electable as President then he fucked up.) It’s time for Biden to hand the reigns over to Harris and see what happens.

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    The only thing Joe has going for him is that a corpse is more electable than Harris. Selecting her for VP was an awful choice.

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      Diversity hires won’t get the same protections in the general election.

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          That argument falls flat when he is not the average American considering he has Monaco’s level of health care which would allow him to push all the way to 90.

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            No amount of healthcare can stop mental decline from old age. It happens to all of us eventually and it is very obviously something that has been happening to Joe Biden. I’m grateful for all he has done as President but it’s a good thing that he has decided to step down from running again.

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    If Biden is the nominee, Trump wins. It’s literally that simple. I’m personally fine with that because I think Joe Biden deserves to be remembered and hated as the selfish narcissist and right-wing enabler he always has been.

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      PugJesus tries every day to convince me to vote for Trump, and it’s starting to work.

      After all, MAGA is all about voting for harm reduction and I know Reds are winning anyway. I might as well pass the purity test they’re going to require so I don’t get shot.

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      still hoping for change a decade later

      Democrats and Republicans have had long enough to show they can do a good job time to let someone else try