cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17792695

After slowly phasing the app out in some regions, Samsung has announced that it will no longer pre-install Samsung Messages…

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        4 months ago

        Wtf are you on about? We can install whatever we want. We use texting because everyone has it and can use it for free without any accounts.

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        4 months ago

        Sorry, what? Not sure if you’re joking, but Americans use texts because they’re free and the ability to use them comes preloaded on the phone (no need to download something that takes up more space). I have Signal and WhatsApp on my phone for my international friends, but I use texts to communicate with US friends because RCS works with everyone and it’s integrated much better into my phone, watch, etc. than any app can be without an absurd amount of permissions given to the app.

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          Not sure if you’re joking, but Americans use texts because they’re free and the ability to use them comes preloaded on the phone (no need to download something that takes up more space).

          The entire rest of the world doesn’t whine about such things and just uses a 3rd party messenger that works the same across all platforms.

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            4 months ago

            This is such a dumb take… “Lol Americans all using SMS! We prefer to install 4 different messaging apps to talk to people, and can’t do shit if we end up in an area with low reception”

            10/10

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                4 months ago

                Which is why Americans use it? Sorry you struggle to put two and two together…

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                  Which is why Americans use it?

                  No, American iPhone users use iMessage. American Android users wished they had iMessage. It’s an ideological thing.

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                    No, American iPhone users use iMessage and think they’re superior. American Android users don’t give a fuck and think it’s hilarious that iOS users think they’re superior because they used dumbed down devices that nag for money everywhere.

                    You should consider staying in your own lane…

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            4 months ago

            Australia checking in.

            Everyone can send and receive SMS. It’s always the primary /default contact method.

            Close friends can be contacted via whatever third party app but there’s no single platform everyone uses other than SMS.

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          There are plenty of alternatives to the native SMS Texting app, for Example Quik SMS - no trackers and it’s very smooth.

          Also for secured messaging - there is Signal, and they are top Dog in that end.

          Whatscrap is just a platform for Meta to scan your messages and make customized ads for you.

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          4 months ago

          What is the alternative? Or do you mean WhatsApp?

          There are plenty of alternatives. Do you live under a rock or why aren’t you aware of Signal, Telegram, etc.?

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            4 months ago

            SMS has one advantage over any other messaging service: Every cell phone that is currently in service is capable of sending and receiving SMS messages.

            WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Meebo, AIM, ICQ, Discord, Skype, Teams, Ventrilo, Roger Wilco, Slack, Hangouts, etc. are all optional. You have to install them. And which one a random American has installed is completely unpredictable. There’s also a good chance that “I use an iPhone so my religion requires me to use iMessage.”

            SMS WILL get through.

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              Small point here too: SMS used to be a paid plan option in the US. I never paid for an SMS plan because iMessage was free over data (I just wouldn’t receive texts from Android users). There was a good amount of time when iMessage was legitimately a great option.

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                I just wouldn’t receive texts from Android users

                So it’s not a cross-platform messenger.

                Other messengers existed before iMessage. Other societies didn’t refuse to accept cross-platform messengers. Installing wasn’t even hard back then.

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              You have to install them.

              Yes, and people around the world do and aren’t hung up on green and blue bubbles.

              SMS WILL get through.

              SMS is the thing normal people use for two factor codes, not actual messaging and even for 2FA SMS is a bad idea because it’s so insecure.

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                Literally nobody is hung up on bubble colours other than you and iPhone users… Most people don’t give a shit, and the added benefits of RCS basically bring it up to spec with a typical messenger, and since it’s pre-installed it means that you don’t need to worry about messenger app segregation. You don’t even need to create an account.

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                  Literally nobody is hung up on bubble colours other than you and iPhone users…

                  Sure.

                  Most people don’t give a shit

                  Absolutely untrue. Not only do the handful of American Android users cry about that all the time, even Google cried about iMessage: https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/8/23951935/google-european-telcos-apple-imessage-digital-markets-act-core-platform-service-gatekeeper-lobbying

                  You don’t even need to create an account.

                  People make accounts all the time. With Google’s RCS, they have an account on Google’s servers.

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                    With Google’s RCS, they have an account on Google’s servers.

                    Do they though? I had a feeling that RCS works through the carrier, that’s why a carrier needs to support RCS for it to work.

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                    From the point of view of an Android user, iMessage falls back to SMS/MMS protocols, so when an iPhone user would click the heart reaction button in iMessage, you’d get a text message that says “Flig Fligerson loves your message.”

                    Instead of pushing a client to other platforms, they deliberately just made the experience shit. I really don’t see the appeal in Apple products.

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                    A small handful of iOS users might complain about iOS, but a majority of us don’t give a shit and can’t understand why anybody would brag about having an inferior OS.

                    And sure people make accounts all the time, but if doesn’t mean they enjoy doing it. I doubt most people enjoy having to flip between messenger, signal, telegram, and WhatsApp - and RCS fixes most of that since everybody has access to it, and SMS is still a main go-to for messaging in north America anyway.

                    Any more stupid takes to share with us?