cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17792695
After slowly phasing the app out in some regions, Samsung has announced that it will no longer pre-install Samsung Messages…
So that’s it ? RCS will only be available through Apple’s iMessage and Google’s Messages. What a shame
Google’s dream of hijacking an open standard (on Android at least) is achieved :/
They had a messages app?
Yeah, it’s not as noisy and messy as Google’s, it let’s you folder messages by category and has a nice clean quiet interface designed for large displays. Google’s tries to push and sell you on features every time you use it.
A pity the good one is going away.
For SMS / texting
I do not know both of these. Amazing.
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Wtf are you on about? We can install whatever we want. We use texting because everyone has it and can use it for free without any accounts.
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Bro, there’s a sign right there that says not to feed it, leave it alone
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Sorry, what? Not sure if you’re joking, but Americans use texts because they’re free and the ability to use them comes preloaded on the phone (no need to download something that takes up more space). I have Signal and WhatsApp on my phone for my international friends, but I use texts to communicate with US friends because RCS works with everyone and it’s integrated much better into my phone, watch, etc. than any app can be without an absurd amount of permissions given to the app.
Not sure if you’re joking, but Americans use texts because they’re free and the ability to use them comes preloaded on the phone (no need to download something that takes up more space).
The entire rest of the world doesn’t whine about such things and just uses a 3rd party messenger that works the same across all platforms.
This is such a dumb take… “Lol Americans all using SMS! We prefer to install 4 different messaging apps to talk to people, and can’t do shit if we end up in an area with low reception”
10/10
area with low reception
American problems
Which is why Americans use it? Sorry you struggle to put two and two together…
Which is why Americans use it?
No, American iPhone users use iMessage. American Android users wished they had iMessage. It’s an ideological thing.
Australia checking in.
Everyone can send and receive SMS. It’s always the primary /default contact method.
Close friends can be contacted via whatever third party app but there’s no single platform everyone uses other than SMS.
What is the alternative? Or do you mean WhatsApp?
There are plenty of alternatives to the native SMS Texting app, for Example Quik SMS - no trackers and it’s very smooth.
Also for secured messaging - there is Signal, and they are top Dog in that end.
Whatscrap is just a platform for Meta to scan your messages and make customized ads for you.
There are plenty of alternatives to the native SMS Texting app
Nobody outside the USA cares about SMS, though.
I’m merely responding to his post. Maybe he’s in the US?
What is the alternative? Or do you mean WhatsApp?
There are plenty of alternatives. Do you live under a rock or why aren’t you aware of Signal, Telegram, etc.?
SMS has one advantage over any other messaging service: Every cell phone that is currently in service is capable of sending and receiving SMS messages.
WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Meebo, AIM, ICQ, Discord, Skype, Teams, Ventrilo, Roger Wilco, Slack, Hangouts, etc. are all optional. You have to install them. And which one a random American has installed is completely unpredictable. There’s also a good chance that “I use an iPhone so my religion requires me to use iMessage.”
SMS WILL get through.
Small point here too: SMS used to be a paid plan option in the US. I never paid for an SMS plan because iMessage was free over data (I just wouldn’t receive texts from Android users). There was a good amount of time when iMessage was legitimately a great option.
I just wouldn’t receive texts from Android users
So it’s not a cross-platform messenger.
Other messengers existed before iMessage. Other societies didn’t refuse to accept cross-platform messengers. Installing wasn’t even hard back then.
You have to install them.
Yes, and people around the world do and aren’t hung up on green and blue bubbles.
SMS WILL get through.
SMS is the thing normal people use for two factor codes, not actual messaging and even for 2FA SMS is a bad idea because it’s so insecure.
Literally nobody is hung up on bubble colours other than you and iPhone users… Most people don’t give a shit, and the added benefits of RCS basically bring it up to spec with a typical messenger, and since it’s pre-installed it means that you don’t need to worry about messenger app segregation. You don’t even need to create an account.
Literally nobody is hung up on bubble colours other than you and iPhone users…
Sure.
Most people don’t give a shit
Absolutely untrue. Not only do the handful of American Android users cry about that all the time, even Google cried about iMessage: https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/8/23951935/google-european-telcos-apple-imessage-digital-markets-act-core-platform-service-gatekeeper-lobbying
You don’t even need to create an account.
People make accounts all the time. With Google’s RCS, they have an account on Google’s servers.
Funny. I just uninstalled Google Messages a few days ago in favor of QUIK SMS. I miss nothing.
I did the same weeks ago and I miss lots.
Really? Like what? I’m not a heavy SMS user.
I really miss support for iMessage style reactions. Now I just get messages like “Emphasized an image” or “Liked an image” with no idea which image was being reacted to half the time, like in a big group chat with 10 people.
QUIK very often says “Sending…” on a picture message forever (literally), even when it’s already been received and responded to. And often fails to send messages altogether when my signal is weak, and apparently doesn’t retry in the background. It forces you to try to resend it and then it’ll say “sending” forever half the time. I routinely have to ask my friends if they received messages if they don’t reply right away. So the core functionality of sending messages and ensuring they’re sent is broken.
Picture messages are limited in size to some number you have to choose in settings. If you get it wrong the messages are guaranteed to fail. A number like 600k or 800k, up to 2000k After experimenting, 800 often fails for me, and 600 seems to work all the time, but the pictures look like crap. They get shrunk a ton. Google’s Messages app must negotiate a size with your carrier because it never makes you choose what size to use and pictures look better, too.p
No RCS. iOS will have RCS built into iMessage and I think it’ll be on by default. You’ll finally get message confirmations and encryption, and typing indicators if you like that sort of thing. I’ve tested it with my friend who already has 18 because he works for Apple and it works great.
I’m about ready to give up and just go back to Messages. I dont like that they track who you text and even send themselves hashes of your messages, but my own personal boycott of the app isn’t going to help anyone who actually needs the privacy.
I use Mezo SMS, comes with a wildcard blocklist for both numbers and content.
And to be honest, I use it exclusively to block shit. Haven’t actually sent a text message in way over a decade. If it wasn’t for two websites I have to use sending me one time passwords, I’d have uninstalled the SMS app altogether.
Sadly, its all I have for communicating with iPhone users. A few people in my family have installed Signal, and that’s great, but my friends refuse to do so, and I don’t blame them.
Oh right, I heard that especially in the US, iPhone users refuse to do anything but. I’m stuck with whatsapp since that’s what almost everybody in Europe is using. Not much better considering it’s a Meta company, but at least they have to adhere to our data privacy laws.
And it won’t give you a vibrate on pick up or push notifications to attached devices like your car… Very cool :/
Didn’t they do this starting with the galaxy s20?
