i wish i could understand the appeal of listening to people sitting around flapping their faceholes about pointless shit
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That was my entire idea for a podcast. Thanks for shitting on my dream. I guess I’ll never start it now.
With that attitude, better become a Musician pronto
Funny you should say that. I’m already a terrible musician. I’ve got a solo gig and a band gig this weekend. I just wanted the podcast to complete my middle aged white dude punch card because my cargo shorts just got here the other day.
Two gigs in the same weekend? Who’s going to keep an eye on the smoker?!
I am an actual cliche. Dang.
I’ll have everything prepped to start it up drunk at 2am on Sunday morning. This ain’t my first rodeo and my brisket will be ready to slice by dinner Sunday evening.
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Cliches are often very powerful and hold a lot of potential for talent.
You’d look way cooler in something fast and shiny…
My motorcycle is plenty shiny and fast.
Seriously, my superhero name should be Average Middle Aged White Dude. The only thing I’m not doing is getting more conservative as I get older.
I guess I’m going to have to wear some white tube socks with my slides and saying shit like “Working hard or hardly working?”
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Where we at with video games?
- if a random comment on the internet is enough to destroy
your dream
then it was a weak and shitty dream. Get a new one.
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do it anyway. Who cares. You know what’s the worst that could happen? You try, and it doesn’t work out and then you can look back at it and consider it “gave it a good shot, didn’t work out”. And then you can point to all the people who still sit on their couch and didn’t even try.
This is good advice for people who are serious about their dream. I was not. I’ve had a crazy life and got to at least kind of hit all the high points of my dreams. My only other one is to retire while I’m young enough to get into trouble and I’m doing my damnedest.
Well, in that case. Thanks SteveFromSpace for saving us from that one…
Why not make a podcast about gatekeeping and use this as your first example? There, you’ve got an objective.
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You are completely right.
I was trying to make a joke, piggybacking off the other guy’s joke, but I can see that was poorly communicated.
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I think you did good, I took no offense. I often get insecure about “Are they joking? I’ll give a serious reply in case they’re not, or in case someone else thinks they might be serious” myself, so I’m usually more concerned with the question “Is this clear enough as a joke?” than with blaming other people for not getting that.
I have an irrational aversion to suffixing my posts with tone markers like “(joke)” that I probably should do something about. It would certainly help with that confusion.
Either way, offering a serious take as a safety measure is a good thing, and I appreciate that you took the time.
May life be as kind to you as you are to others!
Was the name gonna be “Three drunk Texans”?
Yeah, if you’re not a comedian then you can’t just ramble and expect people to enjoy it. Whereas Bill Burr can talk about any old shit and make it interesting.
Everyone overestimates how interesting and funny they are.
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Some people like listening to some of them, though, which is how they get famous in the first place.
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I once had this idea for a show about nothing…
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This is exactly why I like Bad Friends.
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Oh shit. I hate that bro.
Goddamnit…
Yeah and I mean these people are just sitting around talking about the most mundane stuff as if anybody would be interested in hearing it.
Oh shit. I hate that bro.
It’s a form of parasocial relationship. It can trigger the same feelings as if you were in a room with some friends chatting. You get to “know” the people’s personalities, you can anticipate their reactions to things, you get invested in their personal relationships.
Like the Kardashians for middle-aged men.
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Nick Mullen is my best friend
Most of the stuff I listen to is either professionally funny people or specialized topics that I’m interested in.
You need to find better podcasts to listen.
How? I’ve never figured it out.
Start with a topic you’re interested in. For me it’s movies so my weekly rotation is The Film Cast and The Big Picture for general contemporary movies. Then Blank Check, The Rewatchables and Unspooled for retrospective movies depending on which ones they’re doing.
The trick is to start with your interests and start trying some stuff out. If you don’t like a show, just bounce and try another. Eventually you’ll find a selection of shows that works for you.
Other interest based podcasts in my rotation that I would recommend:
Music: Song Exploder, Switched on Pop, 60 Songs that Explain the 90s.
TV: The Watch, Prestige TV
Science: Twenty Thousand Hertz
Marketing: Under the Influence
Tech: Engadget, Vergecast
Videogames: DLC, Windbreaker
Curiosities: Search Engine, Decoder Ring
I listen to My Brother, My Brother and Me because I like to listen to the three brothers be funny at each other.
Some people don’t need or want intellectually challenging media all the dang time.
Most music isn’t intellectually challenging
Even dumb music is way harder to make than a shit podcast
it doesn’t even have to be music, or have a point, just something to make you say “ok…wtf” and it’s more interesting to me than “shootin the shit w mah dudebro brother dudes” type podcasts
I don’t know what to tell you. Sorry that my preference isn’t your preference?
It’s light entertainment, who cares what other people like?
glad you enjoy it
It’s not challenging for the listener though.
I also listen to music?
I can do more than one thing, and I enjoy listening to them.
I don’t get why this is getting pushback. It’s weird to refuse to understand that other people have different tastes in media consumption.
I don’t get why this is getting pushback. It’s weird to refuse to understand that other people have different tastes in media consumption.
Because you’re lowering our collective IQ listening to cringe bullshit as entertainment.
/s
I rather call these pointless convoys challenging media. I understand nothing, yet it’s quite annoying noise to my ears.
fair enough
Episodes 1-250 were great. They’re insufferably flanderized now.
The most recentish eps (from about a month or so back) have been hitting me a lot better than their “during Covid” era for sure. I got into them late though, sorry to hear what they are now isn’t what you enjoy of them anymore. I had the same feeling about Game Grumps right around when they stopped doing episode numbering.
Fair! I gave up at about 300. I still revisit 1-100 sometimes though. So good.
I’d say it’s worth checking out a more recent episode or two to see if they’ve gotten better, but I’d also totally understand just being done.
Personally, I’m super glad I stuck with it because otherwise I’d probably also have dropped The Adventure Zone, and the newest Dracula arc has been really satisfying to me.
That’s when i read a simple manga or something. Those poor ears.
I’m not saying your approach to how you spend your free time relaxing with the media you enjoy is wrong or bad.
I’d really like people to stop insinuating that my approach to how I spend my free time relaxing with the media I enjoy is wrong or bad, though.
Fiction makes me depressed sometimes
The same appeal as reading the pointless shit people type out while sitting on toilets.
this is interactive though-- everyone can participate in the conversation. i guess you can talk to people in tiktoktube comments, but not with the people who are the focus of the entire “gathering.” maybe podcasts are like watching sports on tv. meh, doesn’t matter. enjoy what you enjoy
It’s like Facebook in the early days.
Here’s a picture of my breakfast yogurt.
Here’s a picture of me getting on the bus.
Here’s a picture of my desk setup.
Here’s a geotag of where I’m having lunch along with a photo of my BLT. It was so yummy! Duck face pic!
Here’s the geotag and photo of the place I got coffee on the way back to work! Luv u all!
or facebook today:
here’s a picture of my cat
here’s a picture of my cat
here’s a picture of my cat
here’s a picture of my cat
here’s a picture of my cat
here’s a picture of my OTHER cat
here’s a picture of my cat
If that were true, I’d still bother with Facebook once in a while.
I thought facebook today was more like
here’s an uncanny AI picture of Jesus
here’s the same but Jesus is with a korean flight attendant
here’s the same but jesus is with a starving brown kid
Here’s the same but the brown kid is missing limbs
Here’s an uncanny AI picture of people, in military kit, missing limbs, in wheelchairs, sitting in the middle of the highway, with signs
Here are AI comics with midcentury styled nuclear families, and soldiers, in situations, and with text, that is surreal, at best, and nightmarish, at worst
These are all with titles like “people don’t want to see pictures like these anymore”, “no one wants to support the troops”, “you won’t share this”, and they are all tagged #BOOMchallenge
The Other Cat is going to get a complex from that favoritism.
I wish Facebook was still like this.
Now it’s 90% ads and posts from groups I didn’t subscribe to with a post from a friend sprinkled in every so often.
OK but desk setups are fun to look at
I list n to podcasts about science, space, farming, linguistics, and literature. They’re actually rather interesting. I don’t think I could do just random bullshit
I listen to a variety of podcasts for different moods, and I also use it like music. Sometimes I’m in a music mood, sometimes I decide I need to hear how terrible Kissinger really was, sometimes I want to hear Dan research and refute all the lies Alex Jones spouts (the last two come often with the benefit of learning the origin of bullshit being spouted by some internet personalities), and sometimes I want to hear 3-5 guys who I find funny discuss movies and/or Wikipedia articles. I also like listening to factual and historical podcasts that have more detailed researching.
Why listen when I could look up and read it? Well I do look up and read specific topics, but that takes my full attention. I have ADHD and my mind can wander without additional input if I’m doing something tedious. So I listen while driving, cooking, cleaning, working, and even gaming. Gaming isn’t tedious per say, but sometimes you have bursts of that (farming items, repeatable dailies, etc). I pause when I really need to, but some games I also play for relaxation, and I can relax and listen to a funny podcast at the same time. If it’s work or gaming where I need focus, music works better.
Man, I know. Especially when they go off the actual topic and start talking about some random shit while cackling like a bunch of dumbasses.
The only time they appeal to me is when the facehole flappers are genius comedians like Norm Macdonald or Tom Green. Tom was doing his own streaming live shows before Youtube existed and before most others had even realized it was possible.
Don’t think Norm is putting out a lot of podcasts these days. :(
Yep unfortunately so. So I don’t watch podcasts much, and that’s fine.
I have one podcast I listen to like this because I know them personally, and it’s like hanging out with them. I need to have a hook to listen.
I like Making It with Jimmy DiResta, David Piccutto, and Bob Clegatt (I like to make stuff on YT) because they’re makers and youtubers. They do talk about random crap sometimes, but they also talk about making stuff and youtube and being middle aged with all those things in the mix.
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Not all podcasts are about pointless shit. Here are two guys talking about books:
I mean, it just comes down to entertainment ability. Some podcasts like Spitballers can talk about random stupid stuff and make it hilarious. Some podcasts just try that and…don’t quite pull it off.
I despise this type of podcasts… just idiots (generally) rambling about themselves or shit they know nothing about.
oh shit
i hate that bro
So, I was 5 minutes in … 2 minutes ad. Knowadamsayin?
Oh shit bro. I know what you’re saying.
Gnome saying
so 99.99% of podcasts
maybe… but back when I had time to actually listen to a few podcasts, I had no trouble finding better ones that did not devolve into this shitty format
it helped that the number of people who have a podcast wasn’t quite as close to the number of people who have access to the internet as it is today.
Certainly!
How do you find one without spending weeks searching?
I’m an old fart… Back in my day I had less garbage to sift through
Ah that makes sense. I remember not getting the concept when they came out and then finding too many options when I looked later.
Through recommendations of other users. A list of things I used to listen to at some point:
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My Favorite Murder
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The NoSleep Podcast
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Welcome to Night Vale
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Limetown
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EOS 10
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A Problem Squared
They’re all close to 100% scripted and all but the first and the last one are fictional stories. So they’re more like an audiobook than anything, except they’re created with this form factor in mind, rather than just being a book read out loud.
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Specifically why I’ve never successfully listened to a podcast.
Plenty of good podcasts, but they are either 100% scripted to stay on topic, or they have the good sense to edit down the improv tangential rambles so that the podcast stays on topic.
Unsurprisingly it tends to be older (35+) people with some kind of professional experience putting out the better stuff. The 20-something dudebro postcasts where they just wing it the whole time are awful.
40 minute podcast about [subjext] is 10 minutes of actual content, 30 minutes of riffing, going off on tangents, taking about their other podcasts, sponsors, talking about their next podcasts, talking about each other, their day, etc…
You have not heard Dan Carling’s hardcore history podcast
I see what you are saying and agree it’s often the case, but there are gems out there
I know his podcasts well, I’ve listened to a lot of them. I’ve listened to far more podcasts that are more interested in hearing themselves talk.
Cracks open a can of beer right into the mic
dudes rock
🤦
This is why I almost exclusively listen to podcasts that are scripted, like casefile, freakonomics, this American life, radio lab, wait wait don’t tell me, etc.
Before this, all too often I would find myself listening to people aimlessly chatting about what they had for breakfast and such, and I realized those that scripted their episodes made for a tremendously better listening experience.
The only unscripted podcasts I listen to are D&D sessions
Adventure AI
I think radiolab is largely unscripted and also they leave a lot in that other podcasts would edit out. Imo this all makes the show as good as it is. It feels more authentic to me than a show like freakonomics for example. It’s more like hanging out with several people who are mostly really intelligent and who ask good questions of others who can often provide smart answers. I love radio lab so much… just my two cents as to why it’s that good.
Radiolab is very much scripted and it’s one of the best podcasts ever forever
“Loops” is my favorite episode.
NPR podcasts are generally made as audio documentaries, which is a combination of scripted sections and edited interviews.
Yusss. And I love them.
If it’s “very much scripted” that would make me think there aren’t utterances not written down ahead of time. I don’t doubt a lot of it is scripted/outlined, but if it really is strictly so, they’re absolutely crazy good at consistently hiding it.
Oh there’s a lot of off-the-cuff/improvised stuff for sure! But the structure of every episode is very much scripted. Also I’m sorry some douche downvoted you, you’re not at all wrong.
I agree that the structure is very planned. Definitely a lot of intentional decisions going on there. Thanks for the validation! Sometimes Lemmy puzzles me with the things people are so quick to dispute, and often it’s really just a matter of describing things slightly differently like we did here.
Radiolab is SO GOOD THO. If you haven’t listened to “Loops”, please do! It’s so hilarious and interesting.
“The Living Room” made both my partner and myself cry, as well.
Oh, also the episode where they discuss the symbiosis in forests and how in a sense the forest is almost like a super organism. So fascinating!
It really is such a good show. I forget so many episodes until I listen to them again years later! I think I’ve heard both of those, judging by their summaries online but I can’t be sure right off. My memory is crap but I always have loved the episode where they talk about color and how different animals experience it. I’ve listened to it maybe 3 times and it gives me chills each time. So damned good.
Casefile is a slog. I think its fascinating but it will eat away at your soul after a while and the host knows it cause it’s everything he can do to stay sane.
The others are top tier podcasts but once you’ve caught up, if you last that long, it’s forever between releases.
Isn’t wait wait don’t tell me a game show?
I appreciate the HP Lovecraft Literary Podcast, which has scripted readings punctuated by the hosts talking about the story being read.
Two important factors that make it work: First, the hosts are knowledgeable and engaged with the topic, which means their commentary actually feels like it contributes something. Second, when they do start to ramble too long, the editing just hard cuts them off and goes back on topic.
Well there’s your problem. It’s partly scripted. They have an agenda to go through, but they do some improvisation.
I tried to listen to a Kubernetes podcast once, where they talk to engineers who created it. They just fucking ramble about sports and unrelated bullshit for about an hour and I never listened to another episode.
It’s nice to be in a room with someone who knows their shit, and never actually talk about the shit they know about, and instead connect to them at a human level.
But that’s not useful for podcast listeners.
It was probably a lot more interesting… but yea, not useful if you’re there to hear about k8s.
I’ve dropped so many podcasts where the title was promising an interesting topic, but then inside it’s just these dudebros rambling about nothing. I don’t understand how some of these podcasts have so much popularity.
It’s a stable opportunity because of para social people.
I stopped listening to Second Wind’s podcasts because of this. 1h45 on a topic I’m interested in? Amazing! Turns out half of it is the hosts catching up with each other and reading chat.
In the end, people just like hearing familiar voices. If you trick people into getting familiar with your voice, it doesn’t matter what’s being said as much as it seems.
I’m the same way. I don’t mind tangents that lead up to, or remain adjacent to, the primary topic. But if they get into small talk I’m out.
I guess let me see if anyone wants to listen to it, released TODAY:
Listen to ®hodes & (B)reaks All Day by Thassodar on #SoundCloud https://on.soundcloud.com/GNNMq
Check out the rest of my stuff at www.linktr.ee/thassodar, I’ve got 4 years of music on SoundCloud and various streaming platforms!
Reporting in that I did, in fact, want to listen to it, and did so. Thank you for sharing your work!
Thanks for taking the time to listen! Generally I don’t use Lemmy to promote, but when the chance arrives
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Listening now with morning coffee, quite a pleasant start to the morning I don’t mind saying.
SoundCloud link is broken for me and it’s not on Tidal, but I’m vibing to ThassChill Vol.1 at work rn. Digging it, you got a follow
Aww snap, here’s a new link:
https://on.soundcloud.com/tGU4f
I will typically drop several tracks on SoundCloud for a few months, pick the best ones, and then release an EP/Album with those good ones and a few originals.
SC makes it easy to post a track the same day and update or edit it, when I distribute through Spotify, Tidal, et al., it’s more permanent so I make sure everything is PERFECT before uploading to there. I know you weren’t asking for all this info but…yeah.
Worked, thanks. I like the vibraphone, whole track had a chill jazz jam feel to it. Keep up the good work my dude
Thank you!
Jumping on your bandwagon, I made this alt just to post my music today because of this post.
I’ve been making ambient music since 2008 (and before, probably) mostly kept it on my computer or dumped it to various sites and did no promo work 👍
Yeah, but what’s the name of the podcast?
Trash taste
Downloading 100 episodes now.
EDIT:
Stop Podcasting Yourself’s name is literally a commentary on these exact type of podcasts. SPY is wildly popular and has entire reoccurring segment called, “overheards” where they talk about things they overheard.
If that is trash taste, trash is whats for dinner.
I can hear Connor in this image saying “I hate that bro”
Some people have to survive on trash, and that’s fine.
Talent can improve vastly in time, too.
I would’ve expected “Dunning & Kruger’s reaction channel”
Joe Rogan
Yep. The difference between investing a couple hours vs. hundreds of hours.
“bro that’s why you bring your cooler if you’re buying ice cream bro”
Everyone starts out with shortcomings. No one is born with talent. Learning something you want to do is easier than ever with YouTube and the internet.
Think positive, take what you want.
Literally HeavyMetalHangover lol
Every time I see these kinds of d-bags, I hear Bum Bag’s “another white boy with a podcast” in my head.
Short version: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UMgKKhzRAkE
Full song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHlczKlmIDM
Another white boy with a podcast
