• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    And what’s annoying is conservatives certainly bicker, but are generally very unified.

    True leftists seem so hellbent on distancing themselves from “liberals”. All they are doing is sowing division, in what conservatives consider a binary landscape.

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      4 months ago

      Close; true leftists are hellbent on disillusioning liberals of the notion that they’re contributing anything by simply voting every 4 years for the democrat du jour.

      The political goals of leftists involve a lot more than simply defeating republican opponents, but that doesn’t seem to matter to the majority of casual democrats. What’s more; leftists have an understanding that reactionary political movements don’t simply go away when you vote them out; they are created by real material conditions that need to be addressed, else they will return the next cycle having gained more momentum.

      Liberals are either comatose leftists who are dragging progress to a halt, or reactionaries in denial who would rather a reactionary movement take over than see the hierarchical structure of their country change, even marginally.

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          4 months ago

          If there were no distance between us then you wouldn’t need to move to close the gap.

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            4 months ago

            And there aren’t differences between factions of the conservative end of the spectrum?

            This is my exact point: the whole left-scented side of the spectrum eats their own. The right doesn’t.

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              4 months ago
              • RHINOs
              • NeverTrumpers
              • Libertarians
              • NeoCons
              • MAGA Republicans

              Yea, sure, the right certainly does not do any infighting. They are a unified monolith with no divisions.

              Edit: liberals and leftsts are allies in the same way the Soviets were aligned with West against the Nazis. As soon as the fascists were defeated the West turned on the Soviets to wipe them out. This ‘but we’re friends’ attitude is just willfully blind to the reality that liberals are hostile to leftists, just not while they actively need them to help resist fascists.

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                4 months ago

                At the ballot box? Yeah.

                I clearly, from the start, indicated that they have differences

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                  4 months ago

                  How do you know leftists aren’t voting for the democrats? and how do you know never-trumpers are voting for Trump?

                  This speculative fiction really just seems like a convenient way to blame leftists for the democrats own lack of approval.

                  Maybe the votes democrats are loosing are normal people who think politicians have nothing to offer them, and the leftists are trying to get Democrats to do something to help those voters and excite them.

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      4 months ago

      We’re distancing ourselves from libs because we don’t want the same things for the most part. Besides getting trump out of the picture we’re rather different.

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        4 months ago

        Right, and conservatives want lots of different things, yet they generally act in a unified way when it comes down to voting day.

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          4 months ago

          I wish you libs would do more than just vote a couple times a year.

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            4 months ago

            Exactly the type of division I’m referring to, thanks

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                Because you’re assuming in bad faith, unaware of what actions I take in life outside of voting day.

                You displayed behavior aligning with my statement ( pushing libs away, creating blue division)

                I’ve never provided evidence of your statement (only doing anything on voting day)