• Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    You can sue people for choosing not to do business with you?

    Musk is such a fucking baby. He has no basis for this. He made major changes to the site, including a complete rebrand, and advertisers left. That’s the fucking free market, and he’s gonna sue?

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      Even funnier, he literally told advertisers to go fuck themselves lol. Now he goes whining back to Mommy for new rules for his little kingdom.

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          They’d never even hear it. To give this lawsuit any credibility, they’d have to effectively say that businesses spending/donating money is not free speech. Which would effectively be the opposite of Citizens United.

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              All that matters is the sponsorship tier - will you be flying the judge out to a vacation? Buying their mother a house? The outcome is solely dependent on your investment in the court. Justice.

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    This is hilarious.

    Should every company, regardless of whether they’ve advertised on Twitter before, be federally mandated to spend a certain percentage of their advertising budget on Musk’s little shitshow?

    What, exactly, is the solution he has in mind?

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    One of the most poignant comments I’ve seen on this is it’s a ploy to draw attention from his PAC and other negative media

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      While I think it will have that effect, Musk isn’t smart enough to have thought about it that deeply.

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        Don’t underestimate him. He’s shown he’s a spoiled brat, but he’s not shown that he’s incapable of elaborate and spiteful plots to get his way.

        A smart decision in his eyes might be a dumb one in ours but that doesn’t mean he’s actually stupid.

        Writing him off as an idiot is a one way ticket to being blindsided while you’re distracted by something else.

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          But I do think he’s an idiot. There’s nothing to suggest he is intelligent beyond the average person, and many decisions he’s made that suggest he’s less intelligent.

    • Hellinabucket@lemmy.world
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      Dunno how much attention it’s gonna draw away from it when it inevitably comes out that his PAC funded the committee that turned over the “evidence” that’s being used to prop up his court case.

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    You literally told your advertisers to go fark themselves, Elmo. Several times. This is what consequences look like.

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    You can’t sue people for… making normal business decisions? You’d think Musk would understand that if he was a real businessman, LOL RIGHT he’s not.

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    Just like you exercised your free speech to give Trump’s PAC a gratuity of $45 million, advertisers exercised their free speech by not spending it on twitter.

    Aren’t you a free speech absolutist? Why are you trying to force advertisers to exercise their free speech on your platform?

  • Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.world
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    A House Republican lead committee said that the boycott is illegal but also said they don’t know if there’s really a law against it.

    Republicans: Corporations should have freedom of expression (Citizens United)!

    Also Republicans: Corporations shouldn’t be able to choose what platforms to run ads on!

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    4 months ago

    Elon Musk: Your honor these mean jerks won’t pay to advertise in my nazi bar and it hurts my feels.

  • Bahnd Rollard@lemmy.world
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    My head-cannon from the lawyers going something like this.

    “Thank you Mr. Musk for the lawsuit, we had a lot of fun reading it. Especially the parts you drew (I liked the blue dinosauar). Before we begin, we would like to let you know the legal fees for this case are coming directly from the portion of the advertising budget we allocated to the website formerly known as Twitter”

    Probably more entertaining than the actual cases.

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    I had to skim quite a few down the search results to find an article that described what it meant by suing for “illegal boycott” in more detail.

    https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/elon-musk-x-sues-advertisers-garm-boycott-1236097110/

    X’s lawsuit alleged that the advertisers’ “boycott” violated Section 1 the U.S.’s Sherman Act antitrust law, which broadly prohibits agreements among distinct actors that unreasonably restrain trade, “by withholding purchases of digital advertising from Twitter.”

    “The conduct of Defendants and their co-conspirators alleged herein is per se illegal, or, in the alternative, illegal under the Rule of Reason or ‘quick look’ analytical framework,” the X lawsuit said. “There are no procompetitive effects of the group boycott, which was not reasonably related to, or reasonably necessary for, any procompetitive objectives of the GARM Brand Safety Standards.”

    The “unlawful conduct” alleged by X is the subject of “an active investigation” by the House of Representatives’ Committee on the Judiciary, the lawsuit said. The committee’s interim report issued on July 10 concluded that, “The extent to which GARM has organized its trade association and coordinates actions that rob consumers of choices is likely illegal under the antitrust laws and threatens fundamental American freedoms. The information uncovered to date of WFA and GARM’s collusive conduct to demonetize disfavored content is alarming.”

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      But what would it even change? The businesses would no longer be able to make an explicit agreement, probably have to pay a fine, but can they be forced to advertise or will they just proceed to coincidentally all decide not to advertise without explicitly colluding?

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        I would think. And if that proof exists, it will come up at the appropriate time during legal proceedings. I’m skeptical there is any.

        I guess they could call the entire existence of GARM to be collusion; companies banding together to “punish” companies who don’t follow their guidelines. But X is (was?) a voluntary member of GARM, so it seems that would be a difficult argument for them to make without implicating themselves too.

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      If Musk is part of that collusion, then is it still a conspiracy?

      He told them to fuck off, they fucked off.

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    He’s trying to claim that companies colluded to stop advertising on X and that violates antitrust laws.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_boycott

    But it’s strange because this refusal to advertise on twitter doesn’t really harm competition in anyway. Concerted refusal to deal is supposed to be like when 3 big bad companies want to hurt a smaller competitive company so they get together and boycott any suppliers that deal with this competitor or force them to get a worse deal.

    The companies GARM (Global Alliance for Responsible Media) represents are big enough (90% of advertising $) but they aren’t really competitors to twitter. If say facebook and tiktok got together and told GARM they wouldn’t run any of their ads unless they stopped working with twitter that would be much more in the spirit of the law.

    But Twitter might still have a tiny bit of a case if they can prove they met GARM’s standards but were still excluded anyway. I doubt that’s enough for any major payouts though unless the judge is crazy. And honestly I think it’s still dumb because even if GARM settles it just tells advertisers “Okay you can advertise on twitter if you want they meet our standards”…but are advertisers really going to want to advertise on the site that just sued them?

    Also I don’t even think GARM prohibits members from advertising with companies it doesn’t recommend and just offers suggestions, which makes this case even more insane if that’s true. In that situation it’s like the health inspector gives a restaurant a “D” and the restaurant sues customers for not eating there anymore.

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      Don’t forget the customers of the restaurant also saw the head chef personally farting on all the plates before the food was placed on them. It’s not just the health inspector’s report.