November may come down to a battle between controlling men and women who just want their freedom

  • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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    3 months ago

    Please please please correct me if I’m wrong, but nobody can know who you voted for unless you tell them. Just that you voted. Ballots are unsigned and you place it in the box (supervised, but folded and unexamined) yourself.

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      3 months ago

      This is the law in all fifty states.

      And please, nobody should be photographing their ballots or even using a phone or camera in the polling station. If it is possible to generate proof of vote, the controlling assholes of the world will use that to illegally coerce votes.

    • krellor@fedia.io
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      3 months ago

      Mail in ballots do have the wrinkle in that the ballot is filed in at home where a controlling and abusive spouse can control behavior.

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      3 months ago

      Yes, and not everyone can safely escape such a relationship. Your response comes off as dismissive (I assume unintentionally), but we need to raise awareness and provide support for the shockingly high number of people trapped in relationships like this.

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          3 months ago

          You know that, and I know that! Apparently it’s not common knowledge, otherwise this post wouldn’t even exist.

          Frankly it doesn’t matter that the vote is actually secret if the spouse is doubtful of that secrecy. An abused person may vote against their conscience on even the chance of repercussions.

        • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldOPM
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          3 months ago

          Voting Records are publicly accessible. I know how each of neighbors are registered. I’m surrounded by Republicans.

          • grue@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            That can only leak which closed primary the person chose to vote in. It could be that some of your neighbors vote tactically for the least-bad Republican in the primary and then vote for the Democrat in the general, especially since you’re surrounded by Republicans and may not have a lot of Democrats running for office locally (making their primary uninteresting).

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          3 months ago

          There was no vitriol in my response, we are cool here. ✌️

          I was just saying that while “get out of the relationship” IS generally good advice for someone wanting to know if their husband can see their vote, it is often so difficult as to be impractical for the short term. I have a lot of experience with people trapped in abusive relationships like this (I grew up in a wildly fundamentalist religious environment) so I try to raise awareness about that.

          To actually answer the question, votes are secret. A woman can vote her conscience safely no matter what her husband tells her to do.

          • AtomicTacoSauce@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            My apologies. It’s that “you can’t tell the true meaning in text” thing.

            But I completely agree. Spousal abuse is rampant and saddening. I, as the husband, left my first marriage because of it. My mother experienced it with my step father. It’s a social disease and one with no clear resolve. :(

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    I thought the plan was to have a vote for every child and have the husband cast all the votes?

    /s come on, did I really have to include this? Apparently, yes.

  • zephorah@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    This makes me think of the vid where T gave some serious sideeye trying to see how Melania was voting in the presidential election.