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Russia at the time of the bolshevik revolution was a mostly agrarian feudal society and not an capitalist industrial one. Even Lenin claimed that the revolution would rather happen in Germany then in Russia.
And yes the early extension phase of Capitalism is remarkably capable of improving the economic conditions of the people as the history of the industrial revolution has shown everywhere. The same happened quite a bit later in China after the capitalist reforms were introduced and the CPC curbed the worst excesses of their form of Capitalism.
You can’t compare China of today, with a late-stage capitalist society like the US. Comparing China to the US in the 1950 or so would be more fair, and you will see that this isn’t an absurd claim at all.
Russia at the time of the bolshevik revolution was a mostly agrarian feudal society and not an capitalist industrial one. Even Lenin claimed that the revolution would rather happen in Germany then in Russia.
Russia was less developed than western capitalist powers, but the revolution was run by the proletariat that was radicalized under capitalism. In fact, this was the main difference between Russian and Chinese revolutions.
And yes the early extension phase of Capitalism is remarkably capable of improving the economic conditions of the people as the history of the industrial revolution has shown everywhere. The same happened quite a bit later in China after the capitalist reforms were introduced and the CPC curbed the worst excesses of their form of Capitalism.
You’re so very close!
You can’t compare China of today, with a late-stage capitalist society like the US. Comparing China to the US in the 1950 or so would be more fair, and you will see that this isn’t an absurd claim at all.
Of course you can compare the trajectory that China is on with that of actual capitalist nations. Compare it with India that started roughly in the same spot or with Russia. It’s pretty clear that outcomes in capitalist societies are quite different from those in China. Pandemic handling in particular shows a stark difference. Not a single capitalist nation chose to prioritize healthcare over profit the way China did. China is the only major country pursuing covid-zero startegy.
We are getting off-topic, but if you ask serious capitalist economist they will all tell you that in theory a zero-covid heavy lock-down like China did would have been the best strategy against the pandemic. The problem is that most of the rest of the world decided to go down a different path, and now this is hurting the Chinese economy (and everyone else too of course).
So yes, the Chinese technocrats were the better capitalists then their western counterparts that lacked the authoritarian means to enforce the necessary draconian lock-downs.
Capitalist countries aren’t run by capitalist economists. They’re run by people who own capital, and those people have no interest in doing any sorts of lockdowns. In fact, that is precisely the demographic in China that’s opposed to zero covid strategy.
Again, a capitalist country is one where the capital owning class holds power, a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. Such countries all followed the same pattern while China did not.
And it’s absolutely hilarious for you to claim that the reason China was able to beat covid was because it’s more authoritarian than the west. Westerners are truly the most propagandized people in the world.
Russia at the time of the bolshevik revolution was a mostly agrarian feudal society and not an capitalist industrial one. Even Lenin claimed that the revolution would rather happen in Germany then in Russia.
And yes the early extension phase of Capitalism is remarkably capable of improving the economic conditions of the people as the history of the industrial revolution has shown everywhere. The same happened quite a bit later in China after the capitalist reforms were introduced and the CPC curbed the worst excesses of their form of Capitalism.
You can’t compare China of today, with a late-stage capitalist society like the US. Comparing China to the US in the 1950 or so would be more fair, and you will see that this isn’t an absurd claim at all.
Russia was less developed than western capitalist powers, but the revolution was run by the proletariat that was radicalized under capitalism. In fact, this was the main difference between Russian and Chinese revolutions.
You’re so very close!
Of course you can compare the trajectory that China is on with that of actual capitalist nations. Compare it with India that started roughly in the same spot or with Russia. It’s pretty clear that outcomes in capitalist societies are quite different from those in China. Pandemic handling in particular shows a stark difference. Not a single capitalist nation chose to prioritize healthcare over profit the way China did. China is the only major country pursuing covid-zero startegy.
We are getting off-topic, but if you ask serious capitalist economist they will all tell you that in theory a zero-covid heavy lock-down like China did would have been the best strategy against the pandemic. The problem is that most of the rest of the world decided to go down a different path, and now this is hurting the Chinese economy (and everyone else too of course).
So yes, the Chinese technocrats were the better capitalists then their western counterparts that lacked the authoritarian means to enforce the necessary draconian lock-downs.
Capitalist countries aren’t run by capitalist economists. They’re run by people who own capital, and those people have no interest in doing any sorts of lockdowns. In fact, that is precisely the demographic in China that’s opposed to zero covid strategy.
Again, a capitalist country is one where the capital owning class holds power, a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. Such countries all followed the same pattern while China did not.
And it’s absolutely hilarious for you to claim that the reason China was able to beat covid was because it’s more authoritarian than the west. Westerners are truly the most propagandized people in the world.