• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Surprised to see police acting reasonable.

    But there’s a shit ton of pressure on them to not repeat 68.

    At least Harris and Walz are open to dialogs with protestors, and Walz was doing that long before he was tapped for VP.

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      4 months ago

      Surprised to see police acting reasonable.

      Yeah, same, after all the other heinous shit we’ve seen cops do to protesters at other times over the years this has been incredibly refreshing.

      Along with 68, I think a big part of it is not wanting to repeat 2020. It took an insane number of wrongful arrests and incidents of brutality being caught on video but it might have finally temporarily sunk in for police leadership in one city that getting aggressive with protesters just makes them get aggressive back, but if you keep force to an absolute minimum people will usually just get their frustrations out of their system verbally and connect with some like minded people and everyone gets to go home without any black eyes or broken bones or shit.

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        4 months ago

        Yeah. Having that captain or whatever there (no idea what the acronym meant) does a lot to hold police accountable.

        But I think the only reason he’s out there on the streets is pressure from Chicago politicians.

        I dont think he’d do it on his own, or that police would be as nonviolent as we saw yesterday without that pressure from Dem politicians to not turn this into a giant shit show.

        Most protests are nonviolent and would stay that way without incitement and outright violence from police through things like kettling.

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          4 months ago

          It’s important to remember that of the hundreds of BLM protests, only the ones where something newsworthy actually happened got reported by the media.

          If something never makes the news when everyone behaves, then your brain only ever receives the negative signals, reinforcing the human brain’s natural bias for remembering negative outcomes over positive ones. This leads to an inaccurate picture of what the world is actually like.

          This is why statistical analysis is so important. Numbers are harder to fudge than memories.

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            4 months ago

            Yeah, there was a ton of news reporting on allegations made by police against protesters, very little news coverage of the numerous times police brutalized protesters, and almost no coverage of the majority of protests where it was just people saying chants and waving signs while cops got paid time and a half to sit around and watch them.

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      I’m mostly surprised to see Chicago cops acting reasonable. I’m from here. The Union must have gotten the stern talking to. For those that don’t know, the police union in Chicago is basically a second government. They are stupidly powerful. I’m pro-union in general, but that particular union needs to be broken up.

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        4 months ago

        Bruh, that high ranking cop ain’t on the front lines to keep protestors under control, it’s to keep the cops under control…

        He isn’t there because he wants to be, it’s from pressure of the city government who are doing it because they’re getting pressure from the DNC.

        And he knows if he’s not physically there, cops are gonna cop.

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      4 months ago

      They were expecting tens of thousands (40,000 by one count) - which was the estimate hyped by the protest organizers. They got a few thousands (“more than 2,000”). The police were probably over-prepared, less threatened, and therefore less reactionary. It seems like the protesters behaved themselves pretty well, although that’s not always a guarantee against police brutality.

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        4 months ago

        If Biden hadn’t stepped down, it might have been 40k protestors…

        Kamala isn’t perfect, and we won’t know what she’s really like till she’s in office.

        But she’s at least open to a dialog instead of siccing police on protestors and telling Dems that don’t like her to vote for trump if they don’t want to vote for her.

        I think a lot of people just don’t realize how much Biden was hurting the party.