If we paint all conservatives with the same brush, we alienate the few
have you taken into account the possibility that the reason maga has become as powerful and pervasive as it has is because one of their core strategies is to paint liberals with the same brush?
“let’s not stoop to their level”
again–the let’s play nice take the high road approach is the reason this discussion is even happening.
trump is a convicted felon who also happens to be an insurrectionist. who also happens to be a rapist. who also happens to be a con man. who also happens to be fucking incomprehensibly incompetent.
are we REALLY “alienating” people who take objective verifiable real life FACTS and throw them out the window as “fake news” because that’s what trump says?
no. the time for “we should listen to their concerns” has long passed. as stupid as it is, mockery and ridicule of the wrong side is what will save this country from destruction
I understand your point, and I agree to a degree that once you find out a person is ignorant on purpose, or worse that they know the facts and embrace them, then let them have it. But I can’t see it being constructive to attack anyone before you know where they really stand, and unfortunately sometimes that takes some interaction and “good faith”. Let them dig the hole first before you bury them.
I’m just trying to avoid being a false dichotomy on the issue. People are more than a caricature of red or blue. Hell, part of the Republican plan is to make the peons fight with each other and not talk to each other, it works for them to create this image of the evil liberal.
Pick your fights. Some aren’t worth fighting. Some are.
Talk to more people? Presuming it was a problem with voters showing up. I can’t see how me getting just a few people to vote blue instead of red or not at all is a problem leading to that scenario. Unless I miss your point.
If it’s vote stealing or another insurrection attempt, certainly that’s a looming danger, but I didn’t get that meaning from your question.
It’s not conversion, but just more getting people to think beyond what they’re being fed. That I know of (or rather, what they’ve said) possibly two or three.
have you taken into account the possibility that the reason maga has become as powerful and pervasive as it has is because one of their core strategies is to paint liberals with the same brush?
“let’s not stoop to their level”
again–the let’s play nice take the high road approach is the reason this discussion is even happening.
trump is a convicted felon who also happens to be an insurrectionist. who also happens to be a rapist. who also happens to be a con man. who also happens to be fucking incomprehensibly incompetent.
are we REALLY “alienating” people who take objective verifiable real life FACTS and throw them out the window as “fake news” because that’s what trump says?
no. the time for “we should listen to their concerns” has long passed. as stupid as it is, mockery and ridicule of the wrong side is what will save this country from destruction
I understand your point, and I agree to a degree that once you find out a person is ignorant on purpose, or worse that they know the facts and embrace them, then let them have it. But I can’t see it being constructive to attack anyone before you know where they really stand, and unfortunately sometimes that takes some interaction and “good faith”. Let them dig the hole first before you bury them.
I’m just trying to avoid being a false dichotomy on the issue. People are more than a caricature of red or blue. Hell, part of the Republican plan is to make the peons fight with each other and not talk to each other, it works for them to create this image of the evil liberal.
Pick your fights. Some aren’t worth fighting. Some are.
if we were to end up in a christofascist dictatorship with trump wielding unlimited absolute power, what would you have done differently?
Talk to more people? Presuming it was a problem with voters showing up. I can’t see how me getting just a few people to vote blue instead of red or not at all is a problem leading to that scenario. Unless I miss your point.
If it’s vote stealing or another insurrection attempt, certainly that’s a looming danger, but I didn’t get that meaning from your question.
how many people have you converted so far?
It’s not conversion, but just more getting people to think beyond what they’re being fed. That I know of (or rather, what they’ve said) possibly two or three.
if we were to end up in a christofascist dictatorship with trump wielding unlimited absolute power, what would you have done differently?