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    The rest of the GOP came out in strong condemnation of those attacks, right? No equivocating, or pretending they were Democrats, or saying they weren’t violent?

    Edit: and the Republicans in the Senate voted to remove Trump from office after the House sent them articles of impeachment about this, right?

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      Again, what did Pence and McConnell do when given the choice to overthrow the republic? I’m not a MAGA or GOP person by any means, nor am I a Democrat, I’m just trying to point out that things are not as black and white as you bullies want to paint them.

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        The rest of the GOP literally wanted to hang both of them. McConnell didn’t vote to convict on impeachment while equivocating about Trump begin “practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day”. These people are cowards, at best.

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          Sure, they’re cowards, but did they overthrow the government?

          My only point is that you need to treat people as individuals and not put everyone who has ever voted for the GOP in the MAGA camp. There are Republicans who had just enough backbone on January 6th and there are republicans who do not support Trump today. Believe it or not, there are even republicans who support abortion or believe in gay marriage or support sane gun control measures. Everyone everywhere is an individual.

          It’s important to allow people to evolve if they so choose.

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            Buddy, did any of those individuals in power that you are defending vote to remove Trump when he was impeached for running an insurrection? They didn’t and that is the cover they are providing as their brownshirts terrorize the people.

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              I can’t speak for them. However, if they simply wanted to terrorize people they could have just overthrown the government.

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            On one hand you’re moving goal posts to make them seem good. The bar is not literally overthrowing the government…great… on the other everyone’s tolerance for these folks in the party is just as bad as the bad actors because it enables and emboldens them. This is quite literally how the Nazi’s got into power. Because of people like you.

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            What evolution have Pence and McConnell done since then?

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              Not sure, my only point is that we will not allow anyone in the party to do so if we claim them to be a monolith. There is in fact a divergence of opinions within the party on multiple topics.

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                To answer my own question, Pence and McConnell have done fuck all. If they want respect, they can disown the party. Especially since Trump spent the last 6 months replacing the people in charge of the GOP machinery with his loyal sycophants.

                MAGA is the GOP. Neither Pence nor McConnell have a political future either way.