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              That’s unfortunately not the right question for the situation the US is facing.

              The US election is a binary choice, so there is nothing that matters other than understanding which administration would make the process worse, and doing whatever is needed to keep them out of power.

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                What’s worse than allowing Israel to walk over every “red line” without consequence and then killing children?

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                  • Restoring the Spoils System we dismantled back in the 1800s because it was corrupt and filled with cronies.
                  • Oppressing gays and minorities in the name of ‘eliminating woke ideology’, like what is all over Project 2025.
                  • Forcing Christianity down non-believers’ throats, like Project 2025 advocates for over and over and over again.
                  • Enabling Russia to run roughshod over Ukraine.
                  • Attacking people who look like immigrants, including forced deportations.
                  • Forcing Culture-War Bullshit down our collective threats.
                  • Attacks on the rights of women, transgenders, and gays.
                  • Ignoring climate change.
                  • Outlaw abortion.
                  • Defund PBS.
                  • Cut Food Stamps.
                  • Push a law made by an anti-masturbationist in the 1800s…

                  Oh yeah.

                  • Encouraging Israel to walk over every ‘red line’ without consequences…

                  Just so that you, the reader, know exactly what this poster is trying to get you to forget. They want you to throw your vote away. They are the bookish nerd girl working for the pretty but vile cheerleader to get the 51 Nerds to throw the election to the 49 Jocks by peeling off 3 of our votes. In fact, whenever you see posts like the one I’m replying to, remember. That’s what they’re trying to do. Make you one of the three dunces that let the 49 Jocks dictate to the 51 Nerds how things are going to go.

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                    I think Democratic leadership and many in the national party would be fine with these things 🤷

                    After all, they have no problem with killing children

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              Do you think people here are stupid enough to buy this shit? If anything, you’re just pushing more people to voting for Harris.

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          Oh yeah. Forgot. There’s no other issues at play in a country half the world away.

          We (the US) are absolutely complicit in this atrocity. Thing is, we’re good at it and kind of used to it by now. Also, of note, we’re not the ones actively doing the killing. So we can’t vote and fix it. Best we can do is vote for a person who might fix it. Maybe. If every political issue aligns. But first duty is a vote to make sure I can vote again in the future.

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            We provide the weapons and financial aid with no strings attached, so we are absolutely complicit

            Harris isn’t going to fix it. She gave Netanyahu the luxury of a private meeting

            “vote to make sure I can vote again in the future”

            lol sorry but I if that’s really what’s coming then I don’t think the Democrats are against it; they would have pulled out all the stops to block Trump from even getting on a ballot.

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              You are just a bunch of fun with your lack of reading posts and all. You’re out here wildin’.

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          Actually no. One will not “allow” it, he will actively participate in it. Gleefully.

          You don’t give a shit about Palestinians. Stop using them as political pawns in your corny-ass, edgy teen-tankie bullshit. What you’re doing is shameful.

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      From the article.

      We have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz. That’s to be expected. The alternative, however, is simply untenable," said the letter, which was first reported by USA Today.

      Remember what he did with TS clearance and his children. The alternative is a national security risk.

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      You’re wasting your breath, it’s no use trying to point out that their choices are quite literally conservative vs conservative+, they don’t care, they don’t want to hear it, facing the truth is too uncomfortable, so they’d much rather just keep their blinkers on and believe that their “team” is really progressive actually and there to protect them, and so they can leave their aspirations for change in their “safe” hands, despite everything in current reality, and history to boot, points to the contrary.

      And they will fight to the death for their right to never consider the bigger picture and posture with their bare minimum efforts as if they’ve at the very least single handily saved the world.

      The irony of how identical their self harming loyalty to their “team” is compared to those they claim to be the complete opposite of would be wildly hilarious if it wasn’t so concerning.

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        When the choice is conservative or conservative+, I’ll choose the non-plus option. I don’t like the circumstances, but I’ll do whatever is needed to shift the overton window back towards a direction of sanity.

        Progressive politics can’t happen if radical conservative politics cause 10 years of societal regression in a single term.

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        All true. I kinda suspect they are bots/trolls or something because they post at really weird times of day for North America. Unless they have pathetic social lives, they are probably in Asia or something 🤷 they also cooperate, or post from multiple accounts.

        Moreover, their arguments are a bit circular and cannot go anywhere once they are accused of being OK with genocidal activity. They ignore facts and just focus on trashing the commenter

        No hasbara though

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          I kinda suspect they are bots/trolls or something

          Could definitely be, could also be that the propaganda is so efficient that many people can’t see beyond it. Probably a bit of both.

          No hasbara though

          Small mercies ig lol